WHAT MAKES METH SO BAD

Pioneer Press ^ | February 22, 2004 | Amy Becker

[dennisw]

Execute the meth makers and dealers. That's how you take care of it. I am not a libertarian so I don't go for dopey legalization schemes. Remove the temptation by killing the dealers. Same as person on Atkins keeps no ice cream or cookies in the house.

My house is the United States of America, so off the dealers who tempt the weak.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Meth (for white folks) and Crack (for the brothers) aren't like weed, or even smack. Weed makes people stupid, but other than a loss of brain cells (most burners I have known were Democrats), Dopers are largely harmless. Tweakers, conversely, are a real danger to others in society.

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That's all true, but the real question is whether legalizing these poisons would cause more people to take them. Would you start up a habit because it was legal?

And even if there were a slightly increased usage rate by free adults, don't you think that the added societal costs of these users would be more than offset by the benefits to our liberties and pocketbooks by ending the War On (some) Drugs?

[Lazamataz]

The doctors say he doesn't have Parkinsons.

Doctors also argue that gun control will save lives. ;^)

[dennisw]

I have a friend of many years who was a heavy meth user. The drug virtually destroyed his brain and nervous system. Eventually, he got involved with a strong willed woman who got him to stop, but the damage was too profound to ever recover from. For as long as he lives (which won't be much longer), the taxpayers will be paying for his upkeep and care. Anyone who would claim that meth is a harmless recreational drug, to be equated with pot, or is OK because "doctors prescribe it", is full of ****.

 How un libertarian and statist of you to post such trash!!!  </sarc>

[eno_]

Same as person on Atkins keeps no ice cream or cookies in the house.

So when someone massacres the crew at the local Dunkin Donuts the cops should go looking for a Drug Warrior named dennisw who can't button his pants?

[dennisw]

If there's a joke or point to make there, I don't get it.

[Lazamataz]

Execute the meth makers and dealers. Remove the temptation by killing the dealers.

Well, we do have a surplus population, what with all the illegals unceremoniously invited by Jorge Arbusto.

My house is the United States of America, so off the dealers who tempt the weak.

Ah. Very good. Your property tax is ....(printing calculator sounds)...... $57,283,284,399.28.

Please remit this amount by no later than Feb 28, 2004.

[dennisw]

With meth it comes down to two choices. Who do you want dead? The dealers or the idiots, so weak they use it? Execute the dealers and cookers and the users will decline in numbers.

Kill off the supply and the suppliers.

[coloradan]

That photo sequence could do a lot more to steer people away from drugs than the hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars spent on propaganda, and the billions spent on enforcement and incarceration of users. And it's a lot cheaper too. You want to end up like her? Become a meth addict. You don't? Don't. It beats destroying the Bill of Rights, which is what we have now.

[coloradan]

Authoritarian statists tempt the weak people who can't think for themselves or accept responsibility for their own actions. Off them too, while you're at it.

[FITZ]

Supply and demand with addictive drugs can be misleading. It sounds easy to say eliminate the demand and the supply will go away --- but with addiction, the supply has to exist first --- there is no demand when people haven't first become addicted.

[JosephW]

Hey I'm on Atkins and eat plenty of ice cream. There are many low carb ice creams that taste great. And yes I'm still losing weight (although I don't want to lose anymore, but that is a different story)

[eno_]

If there's a joke or point to make there, I don't get it.

Thank you for removing any doubt.

[txzman]

Another reason to own a gun.

[eno_]

The rest sounds like massive, untreated depression.

Correct. There are plenty of people on track to the same outcome that were teatotal their whole lives. But all that means to the control freaks is that Krispey Kreme is the next tobacco.

[tacticalogic]

Kill off the supply and the suppliers.

Sumary executions, or billion dollar investments in death row facilities and maintenance?

[eno_]

It isn't a simple problem and I never claimed to have all the answers, but a few things seem obvious:

1. The current course of action is a hideously expensive and anti-constitutional failure.

2. When we had medical privacy and indemnity insurance instead of managed care we had lower costs and less abuse.

Loosen drug laws, legalize the least harmful intoxicants, and stop turning doctors into snitches. That's got to lead to a better outcome than what we have today.

[realpatriot71]

You'd think from this article that there are no legitimate uses for amphetamines.

Narcolepsy, ADD, and USAF pilots - that's about it

[cyborg]

You're right. One can always watch the E! stories on Whitney Houston and know drugs can be a bad thing.

[realpatriot71]

It still was a lot less dangerous when made in labs legally than it is now, and there were a lot less addicts.

It was never "less dangerous" but rather distribution was controlled - people didn't know they could make it at home with supplies from the local drug and hardware store.