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CA Supreme Court Refuses To Block Gay Marriages
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Posted on 02/27/2004 4:54:56 PM PST by William McKinley

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To: BJungNan
You know, I kept thinking that "they" should have left Judge Moore alone in Alabama.....

No matter what, the 10 Commandments are here to stay.
161 posted on 02/27/2004 8:59:11 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Prime Choice
OK, I don't give a pigeons' feather about gay marriages, but that photo is John "Effon"Kerry funny.
162 posted on 02/27/2004 9:02:43 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Ol' Sparky
The people through legislation should define what marriage is, not lawbreaking mayors and tryannical judges

since homosexuals are a permenant minority everywhere, "the people", meaning the non-homosexual majority, could continue forever to define marriage in their own exclusive terms. that, my man, is democratic tyranny.

163 posted on 02/27/2004 9:12:51 PM PST by gawd
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To: PISANO
Has everything I have ever learned about our Branches of Governmnet just been changed or is this just plain anarchy?

Apparently both. The city officials operating in blatant, proud defiance of the law, THOUSANDS of times in a week, should have been arrested and charged within a day or so. Yet NOTHING has been done. The left has been circumventing the rule of law for a long time through the courts, but now they don't even need them. They just do what they like and say to hell with anyone who doesn't like it. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT. Unbelievable.

MM

164 posted on 02/27/2004 9:14:43 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Torie
They also know that there is a law on the books in California making the marriages illegal. It was passed by initiative, and could hardly be missed.

And how many laws passed by initaitive in California have been completely negated by the state or federal courts? Particularly when undermined from the beginning by local or state officials who disagreed with the initiatives to begin with? This rapidly heading to the area of an accomplished fact. Think of the chaos that will begin to ensue when these couples enter into contracts, sign mortgages and leases. Before too long at least one of these couples will have a death, and then escrow, wills, child custody will be involved.
165 posted on 02/27/2004 9:19:11 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: okie01
ISA 9:16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

ISA 9:17 Therefore the LORD shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

ISA 9:18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

ISA 9:19 Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.
166 posted on 02/27/2004 9:20:44 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: BikerNYC
The logic of biology. One man + one woman = a reproductive unit. Thats the natural minimum that would suggest a basic "family unit".
167 posted on 02/27/2004 9:24:39 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: ellery
No. Think of them as superset and subset. The distinctions would apply to a dissolution.
168 posted on 02/27/2004 9:27:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Kozak
I understand. But why does that family unit have to be married, with a license, with or without a church? Face it, the reason marriage is the way it is now is because of public policy, not logic. We simply prefer things this way. Moreover, how many children now are born out of wedlock? How many adults are actually married? These figures show that this "logic" you speak of is not air tight.
169 posted on 02/27/2004 9:30:21 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: aruanan
The AG made a mistake.

No, with Lockyer it would be intenional!!!

170 posted on 02/27/2004 9:36:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: gawd
I've never understood the "undermine the institution of marriage" argument. with divorce rates around 50%, there ain't much left to undermine.

well, many or most divorced people will remarry. and again, ad infinitum, in some cases.

driving on the sidewalk undermines the privilege of driving for all people.

171 posted on 02/27/2004 9:39:05 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: gawd
Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality
172 posted on 02/27/2004 9:43:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: BikerNYC
I understand. But why does that family unit have to be married, with a license, with or without a church? Face it, the reason marriage is the way it is now is because of public policy, not logic. We simply prefer things this way. Moreover, how many children now are born out of wedlock? How many adults are actually married? These figures show that this "logic" you speak of is not air tight.

The family is an institution that has endured for 10s of thousands of years. It has been shown to be the best method for protecting and raising children, and in most societies the building block of that family has been the nuclear family with extended kin. The fact is, that for a mere 30 years we have been busy destroying that structure and engaged in a huge sociologic experiment to see what happens when we try to raise children without any coherent family structure. And the early results are not good. Right now something like 80% of black kids live in a home without a father. Right now the rest of our society is at the point the black community was at in the late 60's and 70's regarding illigetimacy. One more generation and we can expect to be at that level in the rest of society. Think that will bode well for our future?
173 posted on 02/27/2004 9:51:53 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Carry_Okie
This seems inconsistent with your proposal to bar couples who don't plan to have children from getting married. If your objective is to tie marriage to children in all cases (to the extent that the elderly couldn't marry), how do you justify allowing younger people who can't have children to get or stay married?
174 posted on 02/27/2004 9:57:22 PM PST by ellery
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To: ellery
This seems inconsistent with your proposal to bar couples who don't plan to have children from getting married.

It's not.

If your objective is to tie marriage to children in all cases (to the extent that the elderly couldn't marry), how do you justify allowing younger people who can't have children to get or stay married?

Ever heard of adoption? How about IVF? ICSI? If your intent is to raise children, there is no reason to believe that it can't be accommodated, especially when the supply of adoptable children under the policy would increase rather markedly. The point is for children to have parents. It's that important.

175 posted on 02/27/2004 10:07:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
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To: gawd
There is no right to marriage guaranteed by the constitution. Further, no one is stopping homosexuals from getting married.

The issue is whether lawbreaking mayors and judges can force a redefintion of marriage against the will of the masses.

I'd prefer the people decide the issue, rather than have dictorial judges force a defintion on the nation. It's called freedom. Don't like? Move to China.

176 posted on 02/27/2004 10:18:47 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: William McKinley
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit...

It's the only way to be sure.
177 posted on 02/27/2004 10:24:36 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Bump


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


The Stamp of Normality

178 posted on 02/27/2004 10:24:40 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: ZULU
"What a shocker!!! A State Supreme Court refusing to enforce a state law!! And in Kalifornia of all places!!! "

So isn't it possible to file a Writ of Mandamus on the CA court....?

179 posted on 02/27/2004 10:34:06 PM PST by spokeshave (Recall Bill Lockyer)
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To: BlazingArizona
"States' rights" my arse.

What about the rights of the majority of the people of California who voted to make Homosexual marriage illegal?
180 posted on 02/27/2004 10:39:21 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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