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Kerry-Edwards: Formidable, but Full of It
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Posted on 07/06/2004 8:16:26 AM PDT by VanZant

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To: claudiustg

Yes, but if Kerry's Vietnam strategery is any guide. Any time we mention Edward's predatory litigation and the devastating ripple effect it has in our society, they are going to roll out a person he saved from an "evil corporation." I betcha that'll be the way they handle any criticism of that.


21 posted on 07/06/2004 8:47:05 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: VanZant
Should Edwards be the Vice President? Without question he shouldn't. But the Noonan-Kaus hunch that Americans are over the WOT, Iraq and the serial beheadings is most likely true. But isn't it also true that Americans were over WWII, rationing, kamikazzee strikes and losing their boys in 1944. If Kerry-Edwards can convince enough Americans that this has all been Bush's war (not our war) and that once Bush relocates to Crawford the bad guys from the ME will stop making trouble for us, they will win.

Barring a major blunder, Edwards will also be tough for Cheney to beat in a debate,

For those interested in facts and experience, Cheney will paint the floor with Edwards.

The arousal-gappers, and there are many, will see it differently.


22 posted on 07/06/2004 8:48:11 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Barring a major blunder, Edwards will also be tough for Cheney to beat in a debate,

For those interested in facts and experience, Cheney will paint the floor with Edwards.

Am I reading this wrong or is this a conflicting statement?

23 posted on 07/06/2004 8:50:28 AM PDT by smith288 (Even if you hate me, God bless you †)
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To: smith288
Am I reading this wrong or is this a conflicting statement?

You're misunderstanding.

The votes of "those interested in facts" are counted equally against those of arousal-gappers.

Cheney will likely kick Edwards' butt, and yet could still "lose" the debate through no fault of his own.


24 posted on 07/06/2004 8:57:12 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: VanZant

"that Edwards has won in a Red State"


Red...the color of all those ambulance sirens that Edwards made a career -- and fortune -- chasing! How appropriate!


25 posted on 07/06/2004 8:57:37 AM PDT by Blzbba (Hillary Clinton - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Sabertooth

I fear it'll be like JFK-Nixon in 60 all over again.

The silver lining is that Kerry is so unlikable and dour, that Edwards sunny pessimism won't be able to save the ticket.


26 posted on 07/06/2004 8:58:49 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: gortklattu

Look for Lurch/Breck Girl to lose in every state that has a medical malpractice crisis that is forcing doctors to flee (PA, FL) The Liberal and the lawyer are toast.


27 posted on 07/06/2004 9:00:57 AM PDT by rocky88 ("It's goin to be the summer of George! (W. Bush, that is!)")
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To: Blzbba

But how can we push the "He gamed the system and used bogus science to suggest birth defects were caused by the hospitals to line his pockets?" Women don't mind that. If he got a couple with a unhealthy baby some dough and took some for himself, how bad can that be? I can just hear so many people saying that.


28 posted on 07/06/2004 9:01:46 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: rocky88

God, I hope you're right.


29 posted on 07/06/2004 9:02:20 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: VanZant

---Any time we mention Edward's predatory litigation and the devastating ripple effect it has in our society, they are going to roll out a person he saved from an "evil corporation."---

Doctors are a very influential group on the golf course and cocktail circuit. Word of mouth is a tough thing to counter, particularly for fund raisers.


30 posted on 07/06/2004 9:03:48 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: mlbford2

Yes, he is a corporate shakedown fool.
He is closely tied to the class action groups. He has taken a lot of their cash. He is way to close to that Association of Trial Lawyers of America.
Not too long a ago they were still putting up their class action packages...like...How to sue Ford, How to sue Wal-Mart, etc.

THey are trying to pain Edwards as middle of the road...which he is not. Just like Kerry, he voted against the 87 billion dollars. And his other votes will hurt him.
As well as his absence from work.
He is a pretty boy...and that won't go too far at all.
He lack in any real experience. He has no real leadership(same problem Kerry has)


31 posted on 07/06/2004 9:11:26 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Sabertooth
You're misunderstanding.

Yea, I misunderstood. You were lumping the two groups... Those who love his hair, and those who love facts. Understood now. :D

32 posted on 07/06/2004 9:27:03 AM PDT by smith288 (Even if you hate me, God bless you †)
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To: VanZant
My Question:

"You just recently said John Edwards was too inexperienced to lead, how do you respond to your own criticism of John Edwards and how has your opinion changed in just 4 months?"
33 posted on 07/06/2004 9:30:55 AM PDT by smith288 (Even if you hate me, God bless you †)
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To: VanZant; Sabertooth; Common Tator; Howlin
"Sweet. But then again NC voted against CG92 and CG96, and those two bums won."

Traditionally, the VP candidate delivers his/her home state and little else.

But with only a 35% approval rating in his own state, junior Senator Edwards can't even deliver NC.

Can he "debate" well? No. He has been caught completely uninformed on healthcare issues (his own specialty field!) and foreign policy. He didn't even know Yitzak Rabin (being uninformed on Israel is a bad political move in the pro-Israel, evangelical South).

Where Senator Edwards does well is in one-way media. When he can talk to the jury, but the jury can't talk back (or flee), he does well.

But he's going to have to walk a political tightrope in which he will be forced to claim that his mega-million lottery lawsuits somehow lower healthcare costs (JFK's stated goal).

No doubt this announcement is being made and heralded today in Pennsylvania because they know that they are going to have to go on the offensive for this issue in states like PA that are experiencing runaway healthcare insurance premiums due to ambulance-chasing attorneys, too.

He's also got a Senate attendance problem as well as a liberal voting record and no legislation bearing his name.

That's a lot of baggage to voluntarily add to a Presidential Campaign ticket.

Notice that even Senator Kerry is trying to back away from his pro-abortion votes. His most recent campaign appearances have had him stating that "life begins at conception" and that he is personally "against abortion," but now his campaign adds someone to his ticket who is pro-abortion...completely negating any backsteps away from the issue.

How does Senator Edwards play in the swing states? How does he play in the South?

The Democrats are behaving as if they only need to sway the liberal media and play to the most liberal of their constituents in California, Illinois, and New York...but the election isn't being decided in those states, all of which were already going to vote for anyone but a Republican this year.

President Bush needs to win only those states again in 2004 that he won in 2000. In fact, due to the census redistribution of electoral votes, President Bush can even lose some of those 2000 states and still re-win the Presidency.

So everything outside of what Bush won in 2000 is superfluous. It's unneeded. Put it out of your head. This whole 2004 election is only about those 38 states that Bush won back in 2000.

34 posted on 07/06/2004 9:31:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: claudiustg
There are committed liberal docs and med staff who really want single payer. Some of the older docs will feel intimidated and perhaps decide to retire early. It will probably increase the market for the nurse practitioners and physician assistants, as they can handle a lot of the work and are cheaper, to boot. The HMOs and insurance providers will like that Kerry is proposing that the government make health insurance premium payments to businesses and people. This guarantees that the costs continue to rise, just like government payments for tuition do not bring college costs down.

This ticket will sneer at MSAs and make anyone who believes in privatization out to be Scrooge. So far, I haven't seen health insurance break out of the single digits in rankings of issues, but the Johns are going to fix that, if they possibly can. It is their only issue where they can play the constituent card for every one of their special interests.
35 posted on 07/06/2004 9:36:27 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: VanZant

Just don't call it looks over experience. Kerry looks like a lip licking reptile and Edwards blinks uncontrollably.
Kerry-Edwards = Liplicker-Blinkie


36 posted on 07/06/2004 9:41:56 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: rocky88
Look for Lurch/Breck Girl to lose in every state that has a medical malpractice crisis

CT's got one of those, but the Dirty Johns still won't lose here.

37 posted on 07/06/2004 10:11:24 AM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: longtermmemmory

"Demonizing trial lawyers alone is not enough or useful. (remenber 1/2 of trial lawyers are doing defense work) We have to attack edwards affiliations."

Nope. One half of all trial work is done by defense lawyers, but one half of all trial lawyers are not defense attorneys. The plaintiff's bar greatly outnumbers the defense bar (which includes judges, who by large numbers are former plaintiff's attorneys: That is why the plaintiff's bar virtually owns most of the judiciary in this country).


38 posted on 07/06/2004 10:21:56 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: VanZant

John Edwards:

The political equivalent of breast implants" - the guy on for Boortz today !!! Pretty funny and true!


39 posted on 07/06/2004 11:15:24 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("a "blow by blow" account of Clinton's entire miserable existence")
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To: Graymatter

You got to check out Edwards walk--it is so femme.


40 posted on 07/06/2004 12:16:58 PM PDT by VanZant
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