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TOP SECRET!, but no big deal.................
Knight Of The Mind ^ | Wednesday, July 21, 2004 | .cnI redruM

Posted on 07/21/2004 8:28:07 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

Gradually, I manage to calm down. It seems a large number of the powerful and mighty of DC are not too concerned about the absolute mockery that Sandy Berger has made of our government's information classification system. This system is no joke. It recently bit a personal friend of mine, who I'll call Frank, right on the kiester.

I was fortunate enough to be able to offer Frank a temporary GS-9 job that he would be good at doing. I had seen Frank's work before and could vouch for the fact that it was worthy of tax-payer dollars. Also, Frank was at loose ends. He worked part-time for the Government on a variety of projects.

All was cool and Frank was ready to get started, when we found that he had an indescretion on his record dating back to 1995. It seems that he had gone out partying, burned down a bowl of something other than pipe tobacco and got his Secret Clearance revoked by Sam's Army.

As a result of this youthful act of exhuberant stupidity, Frank could not review classified Army paperwork, could not use Government IT systems, could not set foot in the same compound as an experimental military weapon system without a chaparone and got himself fired from a good-paying temporary job 9 years after his last known violation. Pretty Draconian stuff.

When it happened, I felt like utter garbage. I shook my head, accepted the injustice of it and chalked it up to having to live in a post 9-11 world. I figured safe was better than dead from terror and gave Frank his walking papers.

Now, fast-forward to 20 July, 2004. Kerry campaign aide Sandy Berger walks into The National Archives to review highly secretive, Top Secret documents. He decides these documents don't make him or his patrons look like Dudley Do-Right of The Mounties. He precedes to start cramming documents into his, jacket, his socks, his pants and his brief-case. He's like Moe in a demented Three Stooges Episode.

If Watergate was a 3rd rate burglary, this inept pilferage makes J. Gordon Liddy look like one of Ali-Baba's trained thieves. This episode only becomes truely disgusting when viewed against the backdrop of what happens to normal human beings who run afoul of the US Government security rules and regulations.

The Secret and Top Secret clearances become a talisman of reliability to people who want to work in technical fields for the military or for other parts of the US Government. You really are as good as the government perceives your word to be. I'd end up like poor Frank if I pulled a Sandy Berger over at my installation's technical library.

Sandy Berger should be permanently untouchable. He should be an outcaste among governemnt professionals. It makes us all really realize that there are two Americas. It's time for the Inside The Beltway America of Kerry-Deadwards Wonkocrats to start playing by a few of the rules.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bergergate; sandyberger; security; theft
Clinton thinks it's so gosh-darn funny. What a knee-slapper.
1 posted on 07/21/2004 8:28:08 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

Wen Ho Lee said it was no big deal too.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 8:30:26 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: .cnI redruM

Talk Show host Hugh Hewitt (NPR called him a shock-jock) said that in cases of defense and terrorism we have serious people and silly people. The liberals are silly people.

Liberals do not treat matters of national defense in a serious manner. It is the warning given to all of the citizens of the US. Now, of those persons, who is serious and who is silly?


6 posted on 07/21/2004 8:32:25 AM PDT by gortklattu (uirement)
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I swear I only clicked post once.


7 posted on 07/21/2004 8:32:51 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: .cnI redruM
I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...

1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.

2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.

3) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.

4) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).

5) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.

6) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.

7) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.

8) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropriate markings (mentioned above) on the documents.

9) This material is frequently audited by internal security agents and is subject to "suprise" audits conducted by military, FBI or other external security personnel.

10) People given access to this type of information are briefed and attend classes on how to handle this material - ie. no excuses for "honest mistakes".

11) As the NSA for the clinton administration, I imagine Berger was personally responsible that this protocol was designed, implemented and enforced by his staff - at least in an appropriately managed administration. This would apply to government employees, officials, military personnel and civilians under contract and extended clearances issued by the DoD, DoE or other intel operations.

12) As such, ANYBODY who has worked in this environment and heard Mr. Berger's comments yesterday about being "sloppy" and "an honest mistake" knows beyond any doubt that he was not only lying, but this was a premeditated act.

13) I left the aerospace business(as an engineer) in 1993 so these comments are based upon the security world of that time. Only Lord knows how the clinton adm changed things during his 8 years.

That summarizes what I mentioned to Steve Cannon of WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, Oh) last night.

The latest word I have heard from this morning is that this material was classified "Code Word Access". Folks, if true, this is "Above Top Secret" ie. John Pollard type material.

So the question comes to mind, why would anybody do such a thing under conditions where he knew he stood a huge chance of being caught? The mission must have been extraordinary for such a risk. The presumption is that he wanted to alter or remove and destroy material that implicated either himself, or quite possibly mr. clinton. The fact that some of the material is "lost" implies that regardless of the consequences, the mission has been accomplished with his current situation collateral damage.

Webb Hubbell's infamous quote "I guess I'll have to roll over again for Hillary" comes to mind. Another example of the clinton whirlwind leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.
8 posted on 07/21/2004 8:34:00 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

That happens sometimes....


9 posted on 07/21/2004 8:38:45 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Knight of The Mind - On Crusade Vs. Liberal Stupidity!!)
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I'm not calm.

The man's job was overseeing our national security, and he's stealing documents relationg to our security in order to score cheap political points with Clinton and Kerry, at the potential cost of American lives.

Sure it's funny, in a blackly humorous sort of way, that a man with such high security clearance "inadvertently" stuffed a bunch of classifed documents down his pants and made them disappear, but it's also frightening as he!!.

10 posted on 07/21/2004 8:39:30 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: .cnI redruM
These RATS have no respect for our National Security, its all a big joke to them. For those who havent read Ann Coulter's book Treason, please do so - it's a great account of how the RATS have carelessly treated our national security over the past 75 years.

And in observance of the Ann Coulter rule:


11 posted on 07/21/2004 8:50:14 AM PDT by capydick ("There's no question I'm an idealist, which is another way of saying I am an American.")
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To: tang-soo

Tang,

That was so good I used it. Thank You.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2004/07/more-berger-grilling-smell-grease.html


12 posted on 07/21/2004 8:50:36 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Knight of The Mind - On Crusade Vs. Liberal Stupidity!!)
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To: .cnI redruM

bump


13 posted on 07/21/2004 8:54:27 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: DainBramage
Wen Ho Lee said it was no big deal too.

What about Chuck Colson, what was he charged of and how long was he in the slammer for that???
14 posted on 07/21/2004 9:02:32 AM PDT by danamco
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To: .cnI redruM
Clinton thinks it's so gosh-darn funny

I can hear Bill now, 'He, ah, really didn't mean it, it's just a little mistake, uh, just like me and Monica. We should forgive him as the democratic U.S. senators forgave me my impeachment. After all, we are all Good-Ol-Boys and since we are libs, you have to, uh, forgive us'

/sarcasm off

15 posted on 07/21/2004 9:21:48 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: .cnI redruM; tang-soo
Tang,

That was so good I used it. Thank You.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2004/07/more-berger-grilling-smell-grease.html

I fear that I did, as well. HERE

16 posted on 07/21/2004 9:29:21 AM PDT by sevry
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To: tang-soo

Your information is correct, with one exception. Not all Top Secret documents have a cover sheet and do not require a signature for each review. That is reserved for various "sub-compartment" and special access programs. One reason for the change is the intel community's creation of INTELINK, its classified intranet. Thousands of documents are now on-line, and available for download or printing, merely by pointing and clicking. Of course, you've got to have the proper clearance, need-to-know, and access to the computer system to make that happen. BTW, I'm sure there were Secret and Top Secret computer systems in that so-called "reading room." I'm sure the FBI is looking at Mr. Berger's activities in those areas as well.


17 posted on 07/21/2004 9:30:08 AM PDT by Spook86
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To: .cnI redruM
According to the rule, "They got a gunfighter, we get a gunfighter," we should be seeking comment from former president George H. W. Bush.

Bubba should not have the last word here. That ought to come from a venerable former president, senior statesman, dammit a grownup.

18 posted on 07/21/2004 10:59:15 AM PDT by Graymatter (Kerry medical records are none of our business---and his veep pick is, who???)
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