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1 posted on 07/26/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by NortNork
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To: NortNork

Well... this is pretty much an "either/or" question.

We can't have our cake and eat it too...


2 posted on 07/26/2004 6:19:19 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: NortNork

That sound you hear is the Prolife unstoppable force meeting the Immigration-reform immovable object.


3 posted on 07/26/2004 6:19:26 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: NortNork

In the words of Charlton Heston (Planet of the Apes): "It's a madhouse! A madhouse!"


4 posted on 07/26/2004 6:19:43 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: NortNork
"Lawyers for a deported Mexican woman who is eight months pregnant are seeking her return to the United States to protect the unborn baby's health."

WOW! I doubt that the argument will fly, but think of the ramifications if the Federal Courts agree. Imagine a potential father filing to stop an abortion to protect the unborn baby's health.

5 posted on 07/26/2004 6:19:45 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: NortNork

Was this reprinted from The Onion ??


6 posted on 07/26/2004 6:20:34 PM PDT by traumer
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To: NortNork

I say we let her back in and let that stand that the fetus is viable American, establishing that it is a baby and has rights...That would be a win for the anti-abortion stand.


7 posted on 07/26/2004 6:20:53 PM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; TexasCowboy; Polycarp IV; Mr. Silverback; gubamyster; JustPiper; ...

Interesting.


8 posted on 07/26/2004 6:22:52 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: NortNork

This could be fun to watch unfold. If the court rules that the unborn child acquired full US citizenship rights just because conception took place in the US; then life begins at conception and Roe v. Wade goes out the window.


10 posted on 07/26/2004 6:23:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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"The child was conceived in the United States and would have been born in the United States except that the mother was deported. Through no part of his own, the unborn baby is in Mexico," Carrillo said.

Looks like the DoI needs to update the tourist visa. "This doucument does not allow the holder to have sex while in the United States"

13 posted on 07/26/2004 6:29:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: NortNork; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

15 posted on 07/26/2004 6:30:35 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: NortNork

"Pregnant woman wants re-entry to U.S., lawyers say fetus is citizen ^"

Dems will then claim a pregnant woman's vote counts twice.


17 posted on 07/26/2004 6:37:44 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Former fetus.)
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"They also say under federal law the fetus is a viable human being ..." Not to confuse the few, but the terms human being and viable are not one and the same notion even though strung together in the article, so if the 'human being' is viable then before he or she is viable, he or she is already a human being. Would one of you defenders of abortion like to explain to this ol' country boy just when that magical attribution begins ... human being?


18 posted on 07/26/2004 6:41:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: NortNork

Location should not equal citizenship!!

Just because you are born (or in this case conceived) here, that SHOULD not be the end all be all when it comes to citizenship. If two foreign citizens, legal or illegal, have a child here, that child should be a citizen of the county his/her parents are from. Why in God's name do we have this insane policy????

20 posted on 07/26/2004 6:44:43 PM PDT by CurlyBill (We don't need a Gigolo and an Ambulance Chaser overseeing our Treasury!)
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To: NortNork

Anchor baby before the water even breaks.


21 posted on 07/26/2004 6:45:23 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: NortNork

I thought the rule for citizenship that applies is "BORN" on US soil. Not conceived or "carried" by the pregnant mother.


22 posted on 07/26/2004 6:46:35 PM PDT by TheBattman (The failure to defend the "traditional" family unit will ultimately be the beginning of the end.)
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To: firebrand; Coleus

ping


26 posted on 07/26/2004 7:33:51 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: NortNork

I have a headache.


31 posted on 07/26/2004 8:13:22 PM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: NortNork

If an American family is in a foreign country and has a child, they have to go to the American embassy right away and register the birth for the child to be able to be considered a natural-born American citizen.


35 posted on 07/26/2004 10:08:29 PM PDT by Styria
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The fetus is a person.


38 posted on 07/27/2004 6:34:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: NortNork; NewRomeTacitus
Here's something interesting (meaning I missed it the first time around):

On June 11, 2004 Irish voters voted in a national referendum to end automatic citizenship for any child born in Ireland regardless of the parents’ residence status. Ireland was the last member of the European Union to allow pregnant foreigners to gain residence and welfare benefits as a result of birth in the country. Seattle Post Intelligencer, June 13, 2004.

and this:

Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

For resource see FAIR: Anchor Babies

49 posted on 07/29/2004 10:27:30 AM PDT by LNewman (An American-American)
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