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To: Grampa Dave

??!!

Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?


2 posted on 08/28/2004 7:31:50 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I don't know.

We will probably find out.


7 posted on 08/28/2004 7:32:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I would think it's just the opposite. Routine and unimportant correspondence is signed with an autopen. Official documents and commendations would have to be signed personally.


11 posted on 08/28/2004 7:34:34 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
The "Dogs of War" have been unleashed...Woof! Woof!

How are things up there in Spokane? I'm looking forward to my next trip up there in two years (college reunion).

25 posted on 08/28/2004 7:36:56 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Autopens are very useful for high ranking officials who have to sign literally thousands of documents per year---but they have to be carefully controlled.

This is usually the job of the Executive Officer. The Secretary of the Navy usually has more than one Exec---probably about 4 officers --usually in the rank of 0-5 or 0-6 (Commander and Captain).

Autopens are large machines--about the size of a 1/2 or 1/4 a ping pong table. They are usually kept in a locked room and highly controlled so that they cannot be misued.

43 posted on 08/28/2004 7:40:26 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Sort of. They establish a procedure whereby oce the requisite conditions have been met, a document can be autopen signed.

The citations signed by Lehman are most likely "replacement citations," provided at Kerry's request, after a review of the relevant military records indicated that Kerry was entitled to the citation. Requests for replacement medals and citations are routine, and can occur due to loss in fire, loss due to neglect, etc.

Best speculation is that Kerry requested replacement medals for the ones he threw over the fence (BTW, the first set of replacements is free!), and either the medals automatically come with a new citation letter, or Kerry requested both, medal and citation letter, or Kerry's servant just figured the request for replacement ought to "ask for everything he can get."

53 posted on 08/28/2004 7:42:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ScottFromSpokane

bump


213 posted on 08/28/2004 8:24:56 AM PDT by crude77
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

There is no way that the Secretary of the Navy can personally review and sign every document that requires his signature. There are not enough hours in a day to do this and if he even tried to deal with 1/10th of it he would have no time for anything else. He will have a procedure for delegating this authority to his staff, retaining for himself signatory authority over principle policy, planning and budget documentation.

371 posted on 08/28/2004 9:31:58 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Officials approve either the draft or original with their initials on the document. Then Personnel put it through the autopen.
452 posted on 08/28/2004 10:24:16 AM PDT by dila813
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Although officials approve documents to be signed by autopen, it doesn't follow that all documents signed by autopen had been approved by the official whose name the autopen signs. Only the person named on the front of a credit card is supposed to use it, but this doesn't stop crooks from pretending to be that person and using the card. Anyone with access to the autopen could use it.
474 posted on 08/28/2004 10:36:37 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I keep one in my car.


497 posted on 08/28/2004 11:23:28 AM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: All
JOHNNY'S FULL MEDAL JACKET

591 posted on 08/28/2004 1:03:25 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: All

Kerry Flip-Flops Again on 'Tossed' Medals
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/4/26/100423.shtml


626 posted on 08/28/2004 1:51:55 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Documents have to be approved and no way would this have been approved without Secretary Lehman signing off. Not to mention in the awards I have seen for the military, I have never seen anything other than an original for such an award.

Autopen makes no sense under the circumstances.


646 posted on 08/28/2004 2:18:06 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Writer Lipscomb smells blood.


650 posted on 08/28/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: ScottFromSpokane
??!!

Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Is John Lehman the same person who was on the 9/11 panel with Jamie Gore-lick???
915 posted on 08/29/2004 4:29:31 PM PDT by danamco
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Maybe it is kinda like The Medallion Stamp, it depends on the individual who has been issued the stamp or has control over its use.

Money and/or sweet talk can sometime override honesty and/or wisdom!

918 posted on 08/29/2004 4:41:34 PM PDT by VOYAGER (!)
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