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Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard [Buckhead post 47]
NYTIMES ^ | 09/09/04 | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 09/08/2004 8:10:56 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax

Even if it's all true, BFD!!!


61 posted on 09/09/2004 8:54:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Buckhead

I guess your point depends upon what you mean by "common use".

I was certainly using an IBM typewriter, with proportional pitch type-balls by 1969. At the time, I was working at a very low-budget publication, where most of the staff never drew a salary. We could afford the typewriter, though.

I don't think you've actually caught anything here.


62 posted on 09/09/2004 8:58:11 AM PDT by Juke2 (Not quite...)
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To: mcg1969; All

The mega thread on this issue is http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210702/posts

It has over 400 posts.


63 posted on 09/09/2004 8:58:53 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Juke2

I think you are mistaken. There is ample research on this point at the thread referenced just above. The Selectric used monospaced fonts, but could vary between 10 and 12 cpi, which was referred to as "pitch." To get proportionally spaced fonts you had to get an IBM Selectric Composer, and it was a very expensive machine for typesetting to get documents camera ready. You had to type each line twice and fiddle with knobs and so forth. One mistake and your were screwed and had to start over. There is no frigging way the TANG used a Selectric Composer for personal memos to file. Plus, these memos have superscript, which was not available in that form at that time, and the signatures don't match. It goes on and on.


64 posted on 09/09/2004 9:02:49 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead; Dark Wing
My wife says she used an IBM "ball" typewriter with a porportionately spaced font in 1971, and that it wasn't much good at it. She also says that none of the "ball" typewriters she ever used had special characters such as the "th" for use in "#th".

She says the "ball" typewriters of this period were huge, heavy, and confined to the desks of secretaries who typed constantly. It is unlikely that the Texas National Guard had any during this period.

IMO the proportionately spaced fonts of "ball" typewriters of this period would be distinctive, and easily distinguished from those produced by later specialized word-processors, and modern computers.

65 posted on 09/09/2004 9:29:10 AM PDT by Thud
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To: mcg1969
Here's a link to other contemporary documents. It seems Mr. Killian had a better typwriter than the fighter group's HQ at Ellington AFB. From USA Today.
66 posted on 09/09/2004 9:31:45 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (your lazy butts are in this too)
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To: Pikamax

ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO FAKE.


67 posted on 09/09/2004 11:10:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Pikamax

These media lies against Bush make me want to puke.


68 posted on 09/09/2004 11:12:23 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Buckhead
You may have been instrumental in bringing down MSM organs NYT, The Globe, and even CBS (and particularly Dan Blather) by noticing the proportional spacing in the memo. If it is indeed a forgery (and with the superscript "th" adjacent to "187" in the first paragraph, I think it a certainty), may I offer my heartfelt congratulations to you?

America Thanks you.

69 posted on 09/09/2004 11:18:28 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer

Well, thanks, but it's premature. It's not 100% conclusive because the IBM Executive and IBM Selectric Composer would do proportional fonts. The Composer was almost certainly not used in this case - it was for typesetting for camera ready and was a monumental pain in the rear to use. The Executive is possible, but still not very likely, but that doesn't resolve the other circumstances indicating forgery. As this gets sifted through the day we will eventually come to find out the truth. There's thousands of people working on it now. It's pretty cool how its unfolded.


70 posted on 09/09/2004 11:29:20 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

It would interesting to look at other memos from this Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian from the same time period that are unrelated to Pres. Bush.

All documents from that timeframe should have the same properties....


71 posted on 09/09/2004 12:25:47 PM PDT by kphockey2
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To: Buckhead

On the site

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007760.php

There is a copy of the docs that were faxed to the White House. They include the fax number for CBS... (Update 6)

1-212-975-1998

Sounds like fun....


72 posted on 09/09/2004 12:40:21 PM PDT by kphockey2
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To: Pikamax

Come on....

The Texas ANG used a PO Box for an address...

Did anyone notice the PO Box was 34567

5 DIGITS IN A ROW..... Yeah Right.....

Coincidence, my eye....

HELLO FORGERY.......


73 posted on 09/09/2004 12:42:46 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Buckhead

Tell us the truth-- you're really the Deep Throat in this operation.

: )


74 posted on 09/09/2004 1:49:31 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Buckhead
Well, thanks, but it's premature. It's not 100% conclusive because the IBM Executive and IBM Selectric Composer would do proportional fonts.

Your caution redounds to your credit as much as your keen eye.

I agree that the forgery case isn't yet completely closed, but CBS has a lot of explaining to do if it is to remain open. I expect them to retract the story soon, rather than attempt it.

When they do, please accept my sincere admiration and thanks.

75 posted on 09/09/2004 2:04:19 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist

The guy interviewed by ndcjournal.com and the effect of overlaying a brand new MS Word version with the CBS version kind of ice it IMHO.

They are screwed.

As for my part, this tsunami would, without any doubt whatsoever, have happened w/o me, so it ain't no big thang.

I will have a cold one tonight, though.


76 posted on 09/09/2004 2:10:36 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

Awesome Buckhead, just awesome!


77 posted on 09/09/2004 2:49:28 PM PDT by Mensch (Is it me?)
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To: Pikamax

Forged! Who knew what and when????


78 posted on 09/09/2004 2:51:22 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Buckhead

Congratulations, kudos, and best regards to Freeper who made a real difference today!


79 posted on 09/09/2004 2:55:10 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Buckhead

Indeed! The raised "th" is a dead giveaway. This just wasn't possible on the typewriters of the day. Where's the letterhead? Military paper of the day was not 11" long... where's the tell-tale line at the bottom?


80 posted on 09/09/2004 3:12:39 PM PDT by ettwein (www.lietothepollsters.com - it's not just a website, it's an adventure!)
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