Kerry critics draw crowd, ire during speech in S.F. (Kerry Vet Leader Likens O'Neill to Goebbels)

Oakland Tribune ^ | 9/11/04 | Josh Richman

[USMCVIETVET]

Don't delay.

[Mikey_1962]

Top of his "TO DO" list

[toupsie]

When you have to use Nazi-esque insults in a debate, you have already lost.

[putupjob]

I notice the critics of the Swift Boat Veterans always conveniently fail to point out that the Kerry campaign had to admit that there "problems" in Kerry's statements and background: like the Cambodia incident and the first purple heart.

Keep on SBVT. It's working. Big time.

[SunStar]

[steplock]

What is with the dnc and their infactuation with all things NAZI?

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Old story - but worth repeating:

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Read closely, and be honest with yourself as you answer along with these students.

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In previous years, and on the first day of class, I have given my new students a ballot, indicating that "it is time to elect the leader of a great nation," and offering them two candidates, A and B.

Candidate A is identified as "a well-known critic of government, this man has been involved in tax protest movements, and has openly advocated secession, armed rebellion against the existing national government, and even the overthrow of that government. He is a known member of a militia group that was involved in a shoot-out with law enforcement authorities. He opposes gun control efforts of the present national government, as well as restrictions on open immigration into this country. He is a businessman who has earned his fortune from such businesses as alcohol, tobacco, retailing, and smuggling."

Candidate B is described thusly: "A decorated army war veteran, this man is an avowed nonsmoker and dedicated public health advocate. His public health interests include the fostering of medical research and his dedication to eliminating cancer. He opposes the use of animals in conducting such research. He has supported restrictions on the use of asbestos, pesticides, and radiation, and favors government-determined occupational health and safety standards, as well as the promotion of such foods as whole-grain bread and soybeans. He is an advocate of government gun-control measures. An ardent opponent of tobacco, he has supported increased restrictions on both the use of and advertising for tobacco products. Such advertising restrictions include:

[1] not allowing tobacco use to be portrayed as harmless or a sign of masculinity;
[2] not allowing such advertising to be directed to women;
[3] not drawing attention to the low nicotine content of tobacco products; and,
[4] limitations as to where such advertisements may be made.

This man is a champion of environmental and conservationist programs, and believes in the importance of sending troops into foreign countries in order to maintain order therein."

The students are asked to vote, anonymously, for either of these two candidates. I employ this exercise only every other year, at most, so that students will not have been told to expect it. Over the years, the voting results have given candidate B about 75% of the vote, while candidate A gets the remaining 25%.

After completing the exercise and tabulating the results, I inform the students that candidate A is a composite of the American "founding fathers" (e.g., Sam Adams, John Hancock, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, etc.). Candidate B, on the other hand, is Adolf Hitler, whose advocacy for the programs named can be found in such works as Robert Proctor's The Nazi War on Cancer.

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The above article was titled ...

The Hitler Test
by Butler Shaffer
26 September 2003

Butler Shaffer teaches at the Southwestern University School of Law.

[cwb]

I'm surpirsed that more Jews aren't furious with the analogies that the Democrats have been making between Bush and Hitler. Not only is it obviously completely false...it is a slap in the face to anyone who suffered under the tyranny and brutality of the Third Reich. When they attack Bush in this way, they marginalize just what it was that Hitler did to these people.

[NavySEAL F-16]

If Sanders thinks he's right, why doesn't he sue O'Neill. O'Neill has said to go ahead and sue him. No one has, including Kerry and the "sue-happy" DNC.

I'ts obvious that Kerry's followers have lost the argument when they start invoking any reference to Nazi's and Hitler.

That should speak volumes to those who care to listen.

[Coop]

I cannot believe the absolute stupidity pouring forth from the Kerry goons. Just when word of the Swifties was quieting down, Kerry's goons pour fuel on the fire. They must be getting very nervous about the next round of ads. [grin]

And let's not forget this sleazeball picked 9/11 for this outrageous accusation.

[Freepdonia]

Kerry Vet Leader Likens O'Neill to Goebbels "Buzz" Patterson is really Keith Olbermann?!? :-)

[Freepdonia]

Kerry Vet Leader Likens O'Neill to Goebbels

"Buzz" Patterson is really Keith Olbermann?!? :-)

[Coop]

Another round of slime deserves another round of donations to the Swifties...

http://www.swiftvets.com

[Caipirabob]

Hitler in the sense of "snappy dresser" or Hitler in the sense of politics?

I mean, Nazis were National Socialists sort of like how Nancy Pelosi belongs to that National organization for American Socialists. Democrats and Nazis goose step to the same political beat these days it seems. They have even got their own reincarnated version of Goebbels in the abundant form of Michael Moore.

At any rate, whatever the rats seems to come up these days seems to fall into the the old "I'm rubber you're glue" formula. Why do they even bother?

[Unam Sanctam]

I often wonder that myself.

[doug from upland]

Apparently Sanders wasn't one of the ones tortured because of Kerry's testimony.

[maryz]

Good one!

[NavySEAL F-16]

I agree. Done.