Posted on 09/20/2004 4:14:37 PM PDT by RileyD, nwJ
Myers Reports
Rather Eqivocates
When it came time to tell the truth CBS and Dan Rather came up way short while NBC and Lisa Myers actually reported.
In the midst of personal phone calls and switching back and forth between NBC and CBS this is what I heard and observed.
At NBC it was a different story as Burkett's background was one issue.
Another BIG issue was how CBS clearly turned its back on having the documents authenicated.
NBC covered the concerns of CBS experts who looked at the documents and how the one who "okayed" the signatures had no training that would make anyone else think he was an expert. (Mail order training in hand writing analysis? Who wouldda thought it?)
Of course at CBS their story came only after they reported on Kerry's attack on Bush followed by reporting in Iraq set to support Kerry's attack.
CBS's partisan reporting continues loud and clear (5 by 5).
Absolutely, Rather and Burkett sat there covering each others A. Burkett didn't say they were fakes, neither did Rather. Just that they didn't get them authenticated. AND more importantly, never mentioned the source.
(And by the way I agree with your comments. CBS is still trying to say their original story is correct or might be correct. It's absurd, but they can't let the story go.)
Just ask any Air Force veterans if there is a difference! These partisans will try to spin anything and everything, even their confessions.
"To err is human but to really foul up requires a computer." - Dan Rather
Thanks, I think I have my sign for tomorrow's Freep at CBS.
well, and of COURSE it is in nbs's own self interest to promote the peaCOCK rather than the sauron eye.
Five bars at five levels. Think of an equalizer led panel with five columns of five lights.
Rather stood in front of CBS News in NY last week and gave his PERSONAL guarantee as to both his source and the authenticity of the docs.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER should anyone forget this.
BTW - I had hoped for Rather to turn over a new leaf, instead he has done the next best thing. He continues to dig, violating the first rule when you find yourself in a hole. First rule: stop digging.
Go Bush!
I found this on google. Not sure how accurate it is.
"five by five"
Term meaning everything is OK.
The term comes from old radio slang. When communicating over radio, the operator would report the strength and clarity of the signal on a scale of 1 to 5 each. Therefore, if a radio operator described the signal as "five by five" it meant it was both loud and clear.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=five+by+five
Print up a huge gold watch....there is a good one floating on the treads and put some words to it. It would make a great sign.
As the group Crowded House said, 'Don't Dream It's Over'.
Scale of 1 to 5 for Volume and Clarity.
5 by 2 means loud and indistinct.
Okay, thanks.
BTW - I had hoped for Rather to turn over a new leaf, instead he has done the next best thing. He continues to dig, violating the first rule when you find yourself in a hole. First rule: stop digging.
Yeah, it's both pitiful and funny to watch them. They think their tap dancing around the issue is really sophisticated and smooth -- but they just look like morons. Some have compared them to Captain Ahab. I love the writer (Iowahawk) who compared them to Wile E. Coyote.
the issue is not CBS. It was who was responsible for trying to screw up this election with nationally broadcast fraudulent documents that ultimately --- undercut --- legitimate arguments against *'s war record. Think who really benefits from this farce. It must have been planned to break open just like it did.
[Ah yes! Poor little Dan Rather became entangled in a devious KARL ROVE plot.]
The truth remains that FratBoy was AWOL at the very least, and most probably a deserter, during a period of time when Americans were still dying in Vietnam. That is IRREFUTABLE. Period.
[YUP! It's IRREFUTABLE and I bet you have the forged documents to prove it.]
As I said in the other thread... It is going to come out that Max Clelan gave the docs to CBS...What are we going to say then?
[Need you ask? Just say what you have been saying....KARL ROVE forged those docs as part of a devious ROVIAN plot to discredit Kerry.]
Max Cleland is the triple amputee former Senator from Georgia who is working for the DNC now. It is being reported that Bill Burkett told a group of Texas Democrats in a mailing list that he had given Max documents to counter-attack the Swift Liars. It is implied that he is the "unimpeachable" source from CBS. CBS then simply got the documents from Burkett for sure, but it was Cleland who gave it credibility for CBS to run with it...so the story goes
[I detect a hint of rationality from this DUmmie. For that he MUST be banned from the DUmmie board!]
CBS has been working on this story for five years... ...are you trying to tell me or anyone else that CBS didn't already have these documents and more "unimpeachable sources" than just Max Cleland? Give me a break. I seem to also recall that Rather stated that the CBS lawyers were all over the documentation before they would allow it to go on the air.
[And yet that whole effort was destroyed in just a few minutes by a few pajama clad bloggers.]
No...I'm just wondering what the response will be if Cleland is at least one "unimpeachable source." It seems like this could be devastating if it starts getting coverage...or worse if it is provable.
[Hee! Hee!]
Rather screwed the pooch on this one. And he hurt Kerry. This took up WAY too much time and drowned out way too much of Kerry's message. The sooner Rather admits he was conned, the sooner we can get back to Kerry getting his message (jobs, health care, end of the war) out there.
[And the pooch Dan Rather screwed was a French Poodle.]
Your man Rather is an idiot who got duped. I hope CBS fires his sorry ass. Thanks to his incomptence, it will now look to some that the media can't be trusted to report anything negative about Bush; that if they do say something negative, it's because they have a vendetta. If this was a Rove trap, that moron Rather walked RIGHT into it. He totally ruined CBS' credibility in reporting on Bush's (non)service record.
[So somehow it is Karl Rove's fault that Rather is a biased jerk?]
Excuse me, but CBS backed Rather's report and employed four.... ...different lawyers to ensure that the facts checked out. They're not going to fire Rather because Rather will break their balls in court. You can bet your bottom dollar that Rather understands the phrase "CYA documentation"...and you can also bet that Rather knows where a lot of bodies are buried.
[The just don't come any better in the art of blackmail than Dan Rather.]
The massive stupidity of CBS. And Repugs are already floating around that the DNC had a hand in this, if so.......I'm almost afraid to imagine.
[Close your eyes and IMAGINE you are in a faraway place.]
This will help Kerry in a big way, I think. A real issue here is censorship and intimidation of American media. THAT is extremely important. This thing has not finished playing out yet.
[Correct. It hasn't played out yet. And dream on about it helping Kerry my naive little DUmmie.]
EVERYTHING going on, except this one issue, makes Frat Boy look bad. But NOOOO, CBS had to drag this out, and focus on the ONE thing that makes Bush look better?!?!?! You know all the Repugs were all, "Whew, close one, Thank God It's Fraudulent!" I wouldn't be surprised if TGIF was now a WH mantra. This is going to be an even steeper uphill battle now. And it's all thanks to CBS and those of you who encouraged CBS to "stand their ground." I hope it was worth it, I hope the feeding frenzy over the TANG documents was worth possibly costing us the election.
[Poor little frustrated DUmmie. Better take your Meds little frustrated DUmmie. Control your anger little frustrated DUmmie. But don't stop doing your Little Frustrated DUmmie act. It's funnier than a puppet show!]
Burkett is trying to pass blame and apparently is a coward for not owning up to his actions.
[SNIFF! And to think that just a week ago Burkett was a hero to all you DUmmies. Oh how the (not so) might have fallen!]
Thanks a lot, Burkett you f*cking idiot..... I imagine Rove is sending him a "Thank you" card as we speak.
["Dear Bill Burkett---Thank you for falling prey to my intricate ROVIAN plot and sucking in CBS News, Dan Rather, and almost all DUmmies. Your stupidity has been enormously helpful and will ensure the defeat of John Kerry. As an expression of our gratitude permit me to send you an invitation to President Bush's Inaugural Ball this January. Sincerely yours---Karl (Rovian Plotter) Rove."]
Damn CBS! How could they cave in like that? They should have stayed strong! I feel betrayed!
[Now we know why you are called DUmmies.]
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