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CBS backs off Guard story (Burkett now maintains source was Lucy Ramirez. LOL)

Posted on 09/20/2004 10:25:03 PM PDT by Bushruffneck

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To: B-Cause

Good G-d!!! A bull*ike if I ever saw one!


41 posted on 09/20/2004 10:39:50 PM PDT by Al Simmons ("Torpedoes in the Water!" - SwiftVets for Truth)
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To: faithincowboys

Nice find... here's the full text

Speeches:
Congressman Hinojosa's remarks at San Juan Nuestra Clinica groundbreaking

April 7, 2004 – It is a pleasure to be here today. I would like to thank Mayor Laredo, Mr. Gonzalez, and of course, Lucy Ramirez and the board members present for allowing me to take part in this very special event.

Nuestra Clinica del Valle is a huge source of pride and admiration for me. Lucy Ramirez, along with the Nuestra board of directors, and the dedicated staff at all of the clinics know no limits when it comes to serving the health needs of the Rio Grande Valley.

By simply not accepting any funding or personnel shortage as a barrier to their mission, Nuestra Clinica del Valle has been able to provide services to more than 29,000 South Texans. That is almost 30,000 of our friends and neighbors who will live longer and healthier lives because of the people here before you today.

At a time when medical facilities throughout the nation are closing their doors or at least cutting services, Nuestra Clinica continues to grow and touch more lives.
The reason for this progress is that Lucy Ramirez knows how to facilitate local and federal partnerships. This groundbreaking for the new San Juan facility is the result of the coordination of funding from two federal agencies, land donated from the city, and assistance from my congressional office...all brought together by Ms. Ramirez. With her unique brand of diplomacy skills and fundraising ability, she could have a great career in politics! But, as you know, we really need her here at the helm of Nuestra Clinica.

I am sure that this San Juan facility will be at capacity from the day it opens and that Nuestra Clinica del Valle will continue to find ways to reach out to the indigent and others who have no other place to turn. It is an honor to witness your seemingly constant expansion, and to be able to help out where I can. I commend you all for your work and congratulate you for your success.

Thank you for having me. I look forward to returning for the ribbon-cutting of the San Juan Clinic.


42 posted on 09/20/2004 10:40:41 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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Anatomy of a Forgery
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7096

According to a DNC staffer, the documents were seen by both senior staff members at the DNC, as well as the Kerry campaign.

"More than a couple people heard about the papers," says the DNC staffer. "I've heard that they ended up with the Kerry campaign, for them to decide to how to proceed, and presumably they were handed over to 60 Minutes, which used them the other night. But I know this much. When there was discussion here, there were doubts raised about their authenticity."


43 posted on 09/20/2004 10:41:27 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Bushruffneck

These documents probably changed hands dozens of times to clear away any trace of the ultimate culprits. Who are they? Wanna bet one of them is interested in running for the presidency in 2008 as the Democratic nominee.


44 posted on 09/20/2004 10:41:32 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: B-Cause

RE: Robin R. ----I've seen girly-men---this is a
manny-girl.


45 posted on 09/20/2004 10:41:42 PM PDT by willyboyishere ( i)
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To: B-Cause

C'mon, that's not a real woman...I hope...for her sake.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 10:41:47 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: Arkinsaw

Lucy Ramirez is of course Lucy from the "Peanuts"
comic strip. Could be her married name. Who'd a thunk it?


47 posted on 09/20/2004 10:43:25 PM PDT by willyboyishere ( i)
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To: tallhappy
"Burkett now maintains that the source of the papers was Lucy Ramirez, who he says phoned him from Houston in March to offer the documents. USA TODAY has been unable to locate Ramirez."---USA Today
48 posted on 09/20/2004 10:43:56 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: tallhappy; Billthedrill

"WAAAHHH!!! I'm sorry, Burky!!!"

49 posted on 09/20/2004 10:43:57 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (FReepers in Pajamas)
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To: Bushruffneck

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucy!!!!!


50 posted on 09/20/2004 10:44:04 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a great job with the Oil for Food program, let's let them run the whole country!)
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To: Arkinsaw

The point is that a reporter from Boston Globe interviewed Burkett back in February, but when his story didn't check out, he had sense enough, not to publish it, unlike USAToday, who apparently swallowed his stories hook, line and sinker, without checking them.


51 posted on 09/20/2004 10:44:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: JohnnyZ

The part where Burkett burns the originals had me rolling on the floor with laughter for a good minute.


52 posted on 09/20/2004 10:44:40 PM PDT by Bushruffneck
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To: FairOpinion

Is this the article

Here We Go Some More
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7099


53 posted on 09/20/2004 10:44:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: JohnnyZ
Lucy Ramirez is the name Burkett has given. He has no proof she exists. His previous "source" was named "Conn".

Connnnnnnnnnnn!

54 posted on 09/20/2004 10:45:16 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: faithincowboys
Who in the Hell is Lucy Ramirez?"

She was last seen swimming back across the Rio Grande. The other mystery character "Conn" is better known as "Con-Man", a description that fits most Democrats. Meanwhile the plot sickens.

55 posted on 09/20/2004 10:45:35 PM PDT by holyscroller (Actions speak louder than bumperstickers)
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To: counterpunch
So was Ramirez in the Army National Guard?

A bit of an odd coincidence that the language in the forged documents matches that of the Army National Guard and not the Air National Guard that Bush was in.

And who is it that served in the Army National Guard and would use that lingo?

Bill Burkett.

The same Bill Burkett that provided the "documents" to CBS and others.
56 posted on 09/20/2004 10:45:52 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Bushruffneck
Burkett now maintains that the source of the papers was Lucy Ramirez, who he says phoned him from Houston in March to offer the documents. USA TODAY has been unable to locate Ramirez.

Has any one looked in Fort Marcy Park?

57 posted on 09/20/2004 10:45:54 PM PDT by Max Flatow
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY; faithincowboys

I would be very careful about this. Ramirez is a common surname. I'm not saying this is not the correct Lucy Ramirez...I'm just throwing in some caution.


58 posted on 09/20/2004 10:46:04 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: FairOpinion
Tuck that Feb 12 date right in here...

FEBRUARY 2, 2004 : (DNC CHAIRMAN TERRY MCAULIFFE LIES ABOUT BUSH'S MILITARY SERVICE, INSULTS NATIONAL GUARD) DNC Chair Terry McAuliffe Says President Bush’s National Guard Service Not Part Of Military. “George Bush never served in our military and our country.” (ABC’s “This Week,” 2/1/04)

FEBRUARY 3, 2004 : (KERRY TRIES TO SLAM BUSH BY : EQUATING NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE WITH DRAFT DODGING, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION, ETC) Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Compares Guard Service To Draft-Dodging. “‘If people went to Canada, if people opposed the war, if people chose to be in the Guard, that’s their choice, and I’ve never raised that in an issue,’ he said.” (Noelle Straub, “Kerry Presents Himself As GOP’s Worst Nightmare,” Boston Herald, 2/3/04)

FEBRUARY 4, 2004 : (KERRY TRIES TO SLAM BUSH BY : EQUATING NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE WITH DRAFT DODGING, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION, ETC) Kerry Repeats Insult Of Guard. “‘I’ve never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector, going into the National Guard,’ Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, told Fox News Channel. ‘Those are choices people make.’” (Nick Anderson, “Buoyant Kerry Embraces Role Of Frontrunner,” Los Angeles Times, 2/4/04)

FEBRUARY 12, 2004 : (BURKETT IS USA TODAY'S SOURCE FOR A TALE ABOUT THE ALLEGED 'CLEANSING' OF BUSH'S TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD RECORDS) "Burkett had twice before been an on-the-record source for USA TODAY stories: a Dec. 18, 2001, story on inflated troop counts in the Guard nationwide — so-called ghost soldiers — and a Feb. 12 story this year in which Burkett recounted what he said were efforts by top Texas Guard officials to “cleanse” Bush's military record of embarrassing information in the summer of 1997." ---- Source : "CBS backs off Guard story Source for memos now says he lied about where he got them," By Dave Moniz, Kevin Johnson and Jim Drinkard , USA TODAY, Sept 21, 2004 , http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20040921/1a_cover21x.art0.htm via 17 posted on 09/20/2004 10:32:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion

FEBRUARY 27, 2004 : (UCLA, CA : JOHN KERRY SPEECH CONCERNING AIRPORT AND PORT SECURITY - SPEECH WOULD BE REMOVED FROM HIS WEBSITE WHEN SANDY BERGER NATIONAL ARCHIVES DOCUMENT THEFT NEWS BREAKS - COULD IT CONTAIN TELL-TALE PHRASES LIFTED FROM STOLEN DOCS?) --- Source - a pajamahadeen

59 posted on 09/20/2004 10:46:47 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: All
Turning to his wife, Nicki, he said: “We've lost it all, baby. We've lost everything.”

Let this be a lesson to ya......never play with Democrats in Texas

60 posted on 09/20/2004 10:46:55 PM PDT by woofie (This document was generated in 2004 by a computer)
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