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Kerry campaign says timing of 'Fortunate Son' ad campaign, 60 Minutes story a 'coincidence'
NBC News ^ | 9/23/04

Posted on 09/23/2004 2:31:31 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: ambrose

IF you believe that hogwash I've some ocean front property in Death Valley to sell.


81 posted on 09/23/2004 3:16:38 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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the more the kerry camp spouts off these lies, the more $$$$ it's gonna cost em to keep people quiet about the truth...

democrats and dan rather (& CBS) fail to remember the biggest lesson of the watergate scandal: the coverup is worse than the crime


82 posted on 09/23/2004 3:18:01 PM PDT by jer2911tx (john kerry doesn't like rice, or as he calls it 'weapons of ass destruction')
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To: ambrose

Okay. Is it also a coincidence that MTV (which, I heard, is also owned by Viacom) began hinting at the renewal of the draft shortly before Kerry started saying the same thing?


83 posted on 09/23/2004 3:23:44 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Solamente
"I'm still waiting for Sandy Berger to be indicted."

It is entirely possible that we took our eye off of the ball here. Berger was taking documents from the NATIONAL ARCHIVES. We - all of us - were assuming that the documents he took were indeed dealing with the 911 Commission. I think we were wrong. What other pertinent documents are stored there?

Kerry's missing service records, for one thing.

Also remember that Berger brought some documents back. As in planted. Could he have brought in documents which were critical of the president for later use by the DNC?? Any bets??????

84 posted on 09/23/2004 3:25:22 PM PDT by datura (Kerry is nothing more than solidified flatulence.)
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To: ambrose
It's just a coincidence that John Kerry doesn't know if he's coming or going...


85 posted on 09/23/2004 3:30:17 PM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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To: EdReform
I will bet $100 that this term "sugarcoated" was focus group tested - the way the RATs focus group test every buzz word before they trot it out.

"Sugar Coat" was perfect for their plan. Operation Fortunate Son was to begin with an attack on Bush's Guard service, an old story, but it would be given new legs with the forged documents. At this time the thrust of the RAT attacks was that Bush disobeyed a direct order to take a physical.

The implication was that Bush disobeyed because he was a heavy cocaine user - that's why the term "sugarcoated" was used. It was supposed to remind the dumb voters that Bush was snorting a white powder.

It was not a coincidence either that Kitty Kelley's book, specifically alleging more recent coke use, was scheduled to be debuted the following week. Remember she got three days on the Today show. I am convinced that if the Pajamhadeen had not fought the fake documents, Today would have given her an unquestioning platform to complete the smear.

Also at this same time the left wing rag, The Nation, had a hit piece specifically alleging that Bush was a heavy coke user in the late 60s and throughout the 70s, including his ANG time in AL.

Why would the RATs do all this? Most swing voters would not even have cared about all this 35 year old stuff. I think the real target of the smear was W's base: rural and evangelical voters. The RATs probably did polling and determined that while Christians could forgive past drinking, cocaine was something else. If the Christian vote could be "suppressed" (to use another RAT term), sKerry still might have a chance to win. At least that's how I see the strategery.

86 posted on 09/23/2004 3:30:28 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: Doctor Freeze
Does the DNC think everybody is as stupid as their myrmidons?

Need you ask?

87 posted on 09/23/2004 3:31:45 PM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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To: ambrose
yeah, it's about as coincidental as wind is to a hurricane.
88 posted on 09/23/2004 3:34:35 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit
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To: MeanWestTexan
PLEASE NOTE NRO HAS RETRACTED THE "TERRY-USED-SUGARCOAT" statement.

Thanks for the heads up. I posted my reaction before I read your warning.

I recall, however, a lot of RATs using the "sugarcoat" term during the week of Sept 6-10, before it became incontestable that the documents were fake.

Maybe we need to dig a bit more.

89 posted on 09/23/2004 3:36:06 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: Martin Tell

Hmmm... That's very interesting.

BTW, I asked the mods to remove #69 from this thread since the tread I had linked to was pulled.


90 posted on 09/23/2004 3:41:08 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: datura

....Documents which have been edited, using sloppy fonts and time stamps. Jimson Weed, you are on the ball!


91 posted on 09/23/2004 3:43:08 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: ambrose
Kerry campaign says timing of 'Fortunate Son' ad campaign, 60 Minutes story a 'coincidence'

Don't forget the release of the Kittie Kelli fan fiction at that same time.

But before you say it; that was a coincidence too. Anybody know if the DNC still has this stuff up on their website?

92 posted on 09/23/2004 4:00:06 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: Solamente

Note Berger's reputation for being 'sloppy'. Even the 'toon joked about it.......


93 posted on 09/23/2004 4:04:42 PM PDT by datura (Kerry is nothing more than solidified flatulence.)
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To: ambrose

Did they pull that Ad or are they still using it?


94 posted on 09/23/2004 6:05:01 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: ambrose

They (with Lisa Myer's help) can sugarcoat sh** all they want, but I'm not biting.


95 posted on 09/23/2004 6:07:38 PM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: Pres Raygun
So you believe Burkett now, but castigate CBS for believing him a couple of weeks ago?

I don't believe Burkett on anything. Heck, you can't believe anybody on this right now heh. I just strongly suspect that Burkett is the source of the documents.
96 posted on 09/23/2004 8:11:20 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: SuziQ
Kerry himself mentioned it during an interview several months ago!!

Oh they have been trying to play that card no doubt. It seems that it took CBS's partisan Mapes to buy into the document crap though.
97 posted on 09/23/2004 8:13:06 PM PDT by self_evident
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