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Police Defend Arrest Over Loud Cell Phone Call
The Washingto Post ^ | 9/28/04 Go Figure | By Lyndsey Layton

Posted on 09/27/2004 8:07:13 PM PDT by freebilly

Sakinah Aaron was walking into the bus area at the Wheaton Metro station several weeks ago, talking loudly on her Motorola cell phone. A little too loudly for Officer George Saoutis of the Metro Transit Police.

The police officer told Aaron, who is five months pregnant, to lower her voice. She told the officer he had no right to tell her how to speak into her cell phone.

Their verbal dispute quickly escalated, and Saoutis grabbed Aaron by the arm and pushed her to the ground. He handcuffed the 23-year-old woman, called for backup and took her to a cell where she was held for three hours before being released to her aunt. She was charged with two misdemeanors: "disorderly manner that disturbed the public peace" and resisting arrest.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aaron; cellphones; dc; georgesaoutis; loud; metro; obnoxious; reverseracism; sakinah; sakinahaaron; saoutis; washington; washingtondc
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To: Conservababe

Puke....


141 posted on 09/28/2004 12:36:26 AM PDT by freebilly (Elect the Vietnam Vet in '04-- Vote Jane Fonda....)
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To: freebilly

Ditto...


142 posted on 09/28/2004 1:01:36 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Debate THIS, Lurch!)
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To: freebilly
Hey, jury? Just put me on that jury. No problem at all taking down a pregnant woman, or anybody else for that matter, who wanders about yelling into a cellphone!

I'm volunteering for it right now!

143 posted on 09/28/2004 4:04:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BWare
"big government"? The WashDCMetro is the product of an INTERSTATE COMPACT!

I bet you were of the impression it was a federal government agency. It's not. Jus' us small government folks.

So, quit messing up the subway! It ain't yours.

144 posted on 09/28/2004 4:07:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AQGeiger

I wonder how loud she was while she was getting pregnant?? inquiring minds want to know.


145 posted on 09/28/2004 4:10:10 AM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Galena Nevada
Eating on the Metro (which is NOT a federal property) is prohibited!

It'll be my tax and fare dollars that pay to clean up those candy bars and potatochips ~ not yours!

The Metro police used to just hand over these miscreants to the Arlington County cops who run this interesting little jail where the first thing they do at intake is give you a strip search with full body cavity examination!

These people can learn to live with the standards of the people who own and operate Metro or they can WALK!

146 posted on 09/28/2004 4:13:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Conservababe
You asked how "the city" affords all these "extra leos".

The answer is the police officer works for the Metropolitan Transit Authority which was created by an interstate compact. He is not some sort of DC cop. Rather, he's a Virginia, Maryland, or DC cop whose job is to keep the Metrorail system safe, and that includes keeping the slops out of the place!

147 posted on 09/28/2004 4:15:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: festus

I like your tag line. "Pajama Posse" has a nice ring to it.


148 posted on 09/28/2004 4:19:27 AM PDT by keats5
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To: randog; shotokan

Now don't go suggesting some crap like that or they will actually try to implement it. Seattle Police now make new hires spend a week at the homeless shelter to learn how the homeless suffer before they get to start arresting them for pissing in the doorways.


149 posted on 09/28/2004 4:33:56 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: sweneop
you mean because she is black? does her not being married have ANYTHING to do with the arrest? or maybe just your bigotry?

No. If you read the article closely, you would have noticed that she was released to her aunt. Not her husband, fiance, or any other sort of significant other.

Maybe your rush to insist that I'm a bigot is simply a result of your own idiocy.

150 posted on 09/28/2004 4:45:50 AM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: freebilly
Sakinah

I'll bet when her husband and the expectant father of her child was notified he was plenty mad.

Wonder why her mother would name her something like this? It's a wonder she wasn't suspected of being an islamic terrorist.

151 posted on 09/28/2004 4:56:41 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: freebilly
any other guy who pushed his pregnant wife to the ground FOR ANY REASON would be thrown in jail, lose his house, car, child custody, etc....

*** DING DING DING *** No more calls; we have a winner (who has identified the only relevant issue).

152 posted on 09/28/2004 5:04:45 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Had the Me-ocrat suddenly learned that other people have rights, too

...he would have said, "Darn, I need more training so I can someday be a competent police officer!"

153 posted on 09/28/2004 5:10:37 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: freebilly

In the good ol' days, if a woman put herself in the place of a man, she got recompensed treatment as she gave. Too bad he couldn't have backhanded her one across her filthy lips.


154 posted on 09/28/2004 5:14:12 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: steve-b

The greatest guarantor of rights for all people is the government, and specifically the police officer on the street. They don't care who or what you are, but do care if you infringe on the rights of others. Me-ocrats, and other anti-social types such as criminals, only see and act for their own selfish interests. Police officers see and act for the interests and rights of others.


155 posted on 09/28/2004 6:26:31 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Michael Barnes

no offense meant to cops.just that I think any citizen, cop or not, who is qualified and legally able should be able to carry anywhere the police can.
I'm an exciteable boy.


156 posted on 09/28/2004 6:33:21 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece)
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To: Carling
She's right, and the cop should be ashamed of himself for shoving a pregnant lady to the ground for talking on the phone.

She wasn't arrested for "talking on the phone", she was arrested for screaming obscenities in public while talking on the phone. The cop followed standard arrest procedures -- and at 5 months, it is highly likely the cop would have had no idea the woman was pregnant, depending on her general build.

157 posted on 09/28/2004 6:37:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: TheCrusader
Transit Police and some Metro officials say Saoutis was protecting the peace by removing a woman who had overstepped the boundaries of civil behavior because she was loudly cursing into her phone.

With all due respect, I read the entire article.

158 posted on 09/28/2004 6:42:22 AM PDT by Dr.Syn
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To: freebilly

The cop had every right to ask her to tone it down. He had no right to tackle her for her non-compliance... He should have written her a ticket, and then if she was still non-compliant made a peaceful attempt to arrest her. If she resisted arrest, then and only then should he have used this type of force.


159 posted on 09/28/2004 6:42:23 AM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: Born in a Rage

The majority of the time, most police officers won't act on something like this unless a citizen complains. Many times the penal code/city ordinance and department policy are set up to ensure no action is taken unless there is a citizen complaint.

Quite bluntly, most cops won't act on stuff like this unlees there is a complaint becasue of the potential negative press/liability issues like shown here. I'm gonna go with the cop got a copmplaint, tried to get voluntary compliance, and when she gave him no choice, he dealt with her as shown in the article. If I get any reasonable information to the contrary, I can shift my views on it, only because I know I'd rather deal with other things than a loud mouthed idiot


160 posted on 09/28/2004 6:46:08 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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