To: beezdotcom
Exactly. When a cop asks you to do something, you do it. The consequences of non-compliance can be a bitch.
To: Lance Romance
The police officer told Aaron, who is five months pregnant, to lower her voice. She told the officer he had no right to tell her how to speak into her cell phone. She's right, and the cop should be ashamed of himself for shoving a pregnant lady to the ground for talking on the phone.
23 posted on
09/27/2004 8:30:53 PM PDT by
Carling
(What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
To: Lance Romance; randog; freebilly
27 posted on
09/27/2004 8:34:20 PM PDT by
beezdotcom
(I'm usually either right or wrong...)
To: Lance Romance
According to her statement, her conversation was already done, so the "crime" was over.
The only decision on the cop's part is whether or not a crime was committed.
If there was a crime then he should have already arrested her and i would support that.
If there was no crime committed then he should drop it and leave her alone.
But instead of deciding what to do based on the law and his observations, he apparently decided what to do based upon either his emotional reaction to the woman not cowtowing to his opinion about the "crime" or perhaps because he was already prepared to illegally ignore the crime provided that she cowtowed enough to suit him. Neither rationale is acceptable.
It's the exact same thing that happened on a much larger scale with the macho raid on the "Waco Compound." In Idaho, what should Randy Weaver's wife have done?
Rudeness is not a crime. "Having an attitude" is not a crime. This policeman probably missed actual crimes being committed in that station because of the energy he wasted on this.
I am disgusted with the wholesale willingness of many commenting here to carte blanche defend the police over a citizen when there is not very much evidence of any crime other than possible rudeness. Rather than accepting a little disorder for the sake of freedom the prevailing sentiment seems to be in favor of a police state.
It is perfectly possible to respect policemen and the law without agreeing with their actions on matters like this.
35 posted on
09/27/2004 8:40:16 PM PDT by
Weirdad
(A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
To: Lance Romance
"Exactly. When a cop asks you to do something, you do it. The consequences of noncompliance can be a bitch."
So given that great logic we are living in a police state. Just because a cop asks you do anything you should do it? I hate when people are talking loud on their cell phones, and think they should be charged with disturbing the peace. I do not think just because a cop asks you need to obey.
What about DUI check points? Do you agree with them? Do they have a right to pull over people at WILL with no reason other than they feel like it? Did you ever get stopped at one... they ask questions like where you were and were you are going?
I agree with cooperation with leo's but not absolute unreasoning compliance just because they are cops. She probably was a nasty person but to post: "Exactly. When a cop asks you to do something, you do it. The consequences of noncompliance can be a bitch." was totally out of bounds.
You give the cops powers they should not have, nor should want... if they want the RESPECT of the citizenry. Respect draws cooperation, fear draws disdain.
79 posted on
09/27/2004 9:53:12 PM PDT by
JSteff
To: Lance Romance
"when a cop asks you to do something you do it"
Lance, you would feel at home elsewhere I think: there's lots of countries I think you would be perfect for -have a nice trip there
97 posted on
09/27/2004 10:18:08 PM PDT by
geros
To: Lance Romance
When a cop asks you to do something, you do it. You would make a good little serf.
164 posted on
09/28/2004 6:58:36 AM PDT by
unixfox
(Close the borders, problems solved!)
To: Lance Romance
"Exactly. When a cop asks you to do something, you do it. The consequences of non-compliance can be a bitch."
When police are given absolute authority to do whatever they want you live in a police state. You no longer have rights and the constitution is meaningless. Rule of law is replaced by rule of man. Freedom and justice become meaningless concepts.
I think she was being rude and annoying, but being rude and annoying isn't a crime. The police officer should be fired and charged with false arrest.
166 posted on
09/28/2004 7:56:10 AM PDT by
monday
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