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Highway Robbery in Texas! -Literally
vanity ^ | October 13th, 2004 | illumini

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:12:17 AM PDT by illumini

Remember the Boston Tea Party?

Get ready for the AUSTIN TOLL PARTY.

Bumper stickers in Austin read: "AustinTollParty.com Stop The Double Tax Toll Plan". A billboard near the 8th-street downtown exit from I-35 echos the theme.

Go to website: http://www.austintollparty.com to get the details. There you will see a map outlining the plan to make all of Austin's EXISTING commuter highways part of a toll road system. The filthy rascals started building toll booths before the plan was "officially" approved by CAMPO. We have uncovered evidence of conflict of interest on part of some appointed politicans on the CAMPO board.

If you live in or around Austin, Texas your daily commute is about to become a LOT more expensive.

Your car may as well get 2 miles to the gallon!

Please attend the RECALL RALLY this Monday, October 18th. We are seeking signatures of Austin voters on a petition to hold early elections for Mayor and two city council members identified on the Austin Toll Party website.

"There will be live music and speakers from across the spectrum. This is the most populist political drive ever in the State of Texas, and we need your participation".

We The People need to take back our city and our roads. You can help: Got to the website, and follow steps one through five. Sign a petition.

RECALL RALLY:

SPEAKERS: Citizens of all persuasions, along with any politician who will take a stand with the people of central Texas.

VOLUNTEERS!! Call us or email us today if you want to volunteer. We plan to be at all the polls starting with early voting on the 18th through the 29th and on election day. Lets get the recall election on the May ballott. WE NEED YOU!

RADIO HOSTS: Please mention this on the air through election day. THANK YOU!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: activism; campo; gimmegimmegimme; middleclasswelfare; nafta; naftacorridor; notollmeanshighertax; notollsmeansnoroads; perry; politics; road; roadwelfareaddicts; sh121; something4nothing; texas; tollroads; txdot
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1 posted on 10/13/2004 9:12:17 AM PDT by illumini
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To: illumini

http://www.austintollparty.com


2 posted on 10/13/2004 9:13:00 AM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: illumini

RECALL RALLY: 4700 Grover Street (South of 49th between Lamar and Burnet) 6-8 PM.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 9:16:36 AM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: illumini

OK, I'll bite...

Are you pushing for no roads, or higher taxes. I think it is safe to assume the roads will not build themselves.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 9:19:03 AM PDT by Deek
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To: Deek

These are tolls on existing roads, already paid for with taxpayer money. It is happening in the Dallas area as well.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 9:24:51 AM PDT by scan59
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To: Deek

They want to charge toll on roads already funded, and on roads already built. Only in Austin Texas the Liberal Cesspool of Texas.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 9:28:28 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Turned off Fox)
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To: illumini
I am concerned that they are only trying to recall the non-environmentally extremist members of the city council. That by no means excuses their vote on this matter, but we need to be careful not to get something worse.

Do you not see it this way?

7 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:35 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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To: Deek
Are you pushing for no roads, or higher taxes. I think it is safe to assume the roads will not build themselves.

So, do you advocate tolls on EVERY road, so as to share the tax burden incurred in order to build roads throughout the state? Wouldn't that make freeloaders out of all drivers who do not use toll roads? Using your rationale, an entrance fee should be required to enter any government building because, let's face it, they don't build themselves.

Tolls lead to (more) corruption. You don't think any unconnected person is going to land a $40,000 salary (loaded w/ benefits) collecting quarters, do you? Nope, those jobs are for "friends." And you don't think those "reasonable" tolls won't increase frequently, do you?

Bottom line - the gov't has plenty of money. They just need to figure out how not to waste it.

8 posted on 10/13/2004 9:36:27 AM PDT by Living Free in NH (Where am I and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: illumini
Name me one person that does not use or benefit the highway system. Try!

The roadway system is paid for by taxes. Every ounce of milk a baby to adult uses, the roadway delivers to the market . So, try and tell me one person that doesn't benefit. I won't bother to read this thread again since you have none. Oh, don't forget that worker that goes to work using the roadway and supplies the products that you go to the grocery for, or or or or or. To those that still don.t understand, charge toll, and the price of that milk will go up.
9 posted on 10/13/2004 9:36:32 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: DrewsDad

List the non-environmentally extremist members, I having trouble thinking who they may be.


10 posted on 10/13/2004 9:37:09 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Turned off Fox)
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To: illumini

Texas is strange. I drove through it across I-10 last year and was pulled over for a seatbelt violation. The state trooper saw me put my seatbelt on as I was pulling out of the gas station(go figure). I think those small towns like Junction fund themselves on traffic violations.. hehe.

The ticket was $160. Speeding ticket at minimum was half that.

So, let me get this straight: Putting my own life at risk warrants more punishment than putting others lives at risk.. Yeah.. that's logical :rolls eyes:


11 posted on 10/13/2004 9:39:04 AM PDT by Se7eN
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To: Logical me
Your post is illogical...to the point of almost being unreadable.

Care to try again?

12 posted on 10/13/2004 9:39:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A Palestinian girl says to her mommy, "After Abdul blows up, can I have his room?")
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To: Deek

In Austin I am surprised that there is a group fighting the toll roads for EXISTING roads, being the socialist cesspool that it is.

In Houston the MSM has already announced that any new roads built will be toll roads.

That is exactly why I refuse to use ANY toll road. My taxes helped build the roads.....not gonna let them double-dip me.

There is one stretch of toll road here named the Westpark Tollway. It runs for about a 5-mile stretch and costs $2.50 one way. Some fools are actually paying it.

Several years ago there weren't enough people using the Sam Houston tollway so the "authorities" said, without embarrassment, ( paraphrased, ) "There aren't enough people using the tollway so we are going to INCREASE the toll." Is that total insanity or what?


13 posted on 10/13/2004 9:41:52 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Salsa Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: scan59
Over the life of a road, most of the cost of that road is in the form of operating and maintenance expenses. No road is "already paid for". Roads that are open today will cost millions of dollars a year (in someone's money) to maintain.

The problem we have is that Texas is a gas-tax "Donor State". We are paying for everyone else's roads. This is what we should be protesting!

In my opinion, Tolls are the fairest of all forms of taxation. You only pay for it if you use it. If you don't use it, you don't pay. Not to mention you aren't demanding some other poor state pay for your road.

We need the roads in Austin. Until something better comes along, tolls look good to me. At least I know that all of the money I pay will be used to build roads in my area.
14 posted on 10/13/2004 9:41:58 AM PDT by Deek
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Deek, I too want good roads, but we pay for highways everytime we fill up our vehicles. The trouble in Texas and the US in general is that the moneys were spent on other projects. I have no faith in the toll momey being only spent on road and repairs. The general rule is if a politicain has money in a fund the spend it on something.

An example mass transportation in Austin. Look at that mess, and think what will happen to the toll monies.

15 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Turned off Fox)
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To: Deek

I for one would like to pay for a road only once. I would like to see roads to be built with bonds. (a way to set aside a set portion of future tax revenue)

I would like to see politicians with the courage to tell us, hey solving traffic will require building this road and that will cost X dollars. Not pass the buck by creating a regional authority so they can play the blame game, and then tell us, it will cost no new taxes, just tolls.

-- lates
-- jrawk


16 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:05 AM PDT by jrawk (trust but verify)
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To: Living Free in NH
So, do you advocate tolls on EVERY road, so as to share the tax burden incurred in order to build roads throughout the state?

Yup!

Wouldn't that make freeloaders out of all drivers who do not use toll roads?

How so? If you use the toll road you pay, if you don't use the road you don't pay.
17 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:14 AM PDT by Deek
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To: Jarhead1957

...They want to charge toll on roads already funded, and on roads already built. Only in Austin Texas the Liberal Cesspool of Texas...

Since you can't hardly get in or out of Austin, the houses located in the city have about tripled in value in recent years.

The cesspool of Texas is in need of a gigantic caca sucker.
I was up there for SXSW last year on business and I've never seen so many losers in one place in all my life.

If they wanted to follow Houstons lead and put in a new toll highway, I'd say fine. But what exactly are they proposing here? If it's just standing up toll booths on the existing infrastructure, the only thing that is going to move is money out of your wallet.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:31 AM PDT by planekT
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To: Deek

You are right on with this deek. In addition, people are uneducated in that they do not know that for every toll road there is a free road alternative.


19 posted on 10/13/2004 9:59:14 AM PDT by Swankette
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To: Deek

So what will happen when everyone takes to the side streets genius?


20 posted on 10/13/2004 10:02:55 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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