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Does anyone have US casualty number for October? I suspect it was less than September.
10/31 | Me

Posted on 10/31/2004 8:41:06 AM PST by Oblongata

Sorry for the Vanity, but the Media and the Kerry campaign keep trumpeting the increasing death toll. It seems to me things got better this month, though yesterday may have changed that.

I have searched for this info but been unsuccessful. Does anyone have a good source for numbers?


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1 posted on 10/31/2004 8:41:06 AM PST by Oblongata
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To: Oblongata
If Bush wins Tuesday, the insurgency collapses and peace returns faster in Iraq than in Afghanistan.

Fewer and fewer terrorists are surviving each week.

They are being picked off by snipers by the hundreds.

2 posted on 10/31/2004 8:45:30 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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http://icasualties.org/oif/
Period	US	UK	Other*	Total	Avg	Days
10-2004	65	1	2	68	2.19	31
9-2004 	80	3	4	87	2.9	30

3 posted on 10/31/2004 8:45:35 AM PST by pcx99
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Something to keep in mind with this months figures are the majority of the fatalities happened in the first 2 weeks, after that we went through a week with no casualties and around two the next week. Things have stepped up this week due to our elections and Kerry's anti-war rhetoric.

Initially the cordon around Fallujah helped but I think the enemy is starting to adjust. It's time to take them out.
4 posted on 10/31/2004 8:52:50 AM PST by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: Oblongata

1 is to many.....but that is the price we pay.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 8:53:30 AM PST by marty60
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To: pcx99

Good, that's exactly what I suspected. If yesterday wasn't so unfortunate, we would have a more than 25% drop. Now I'm just waiting for the media to say something about this.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 8:53:59 AM PST by Oblongata
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In a word, the question and this thread is sick.


7 posted on 10/31/2004 8:55:53 AM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: Oblongata

The mortality rate of those serving in Iraq is 2 per day, the under 65 mortality rate in the US is 4. You won't hear that any more than you'll hear about the drop in casualties this month.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 8:56:20 AM PST by pcx99
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To: lewislynn

Some might see it that way. I, and everyone here, mourn the loss of every soldier.

But the true disgusting fact is that the Media and much of the public use these numbers as the sole basis of whether we are winning or not. A reduction helps the cause here at home.


9 posted on 10/31/2004 9:01:11 AM PST by Oblongata
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Yes, It was less than in September.
And less than August.
And less than July as well until the unfortunate car bombing of the Marine truck killed 8 (near Fallujah) on the last day of October.

http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/


10 posted on 10/31/2004 9:03:12 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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Some might see it that way. I, and everyone here, mourn the loss of every soldier.

You mean you mourn because the numbers (not the deaths) are up and salivate when the numbers are low.

Would you be asking the same question for the same reason if a Democrat was in office?...I thought so...hence, it's a sick question.

11 posted on 10/31/2004 9:08:42 AM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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I also think that 'counting' the dead is morbid, especially if they are our own. Yet, I can't help but feel if the totals were increasing, the MSM would be carrying that banner as proof our policies were wrong. We've got enough dead....we've got over 3000 of them from 9/11. The only dead that I want to see are those M'fer's that pray to Allah!


12 posted on 10/31/2004 9:09:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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You mean you mourn because the numbers (not the deaths) are up and salivate when the numbers are low.

I think you're reading a little too much into this. I mourn when the numbers are up, and feel better when they are low. I've been to Iraq, and I know those numbers each translate into a father, a daughter, or any number of individual people. I've been on FR a while, and I don't think that anyone here really looks at is like they're simple economic or polling figures.

I know for a fact that there are some Americans who mourn because the numbers are down and salivate when the numbers are high. Personally, I reserve my ire for them.

13 posted on 10/31/2004 9:16:32 AM PST by Steel Wolf (There's only three kinds of people in this world...)
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To: Steel Wolf

Thanks, I agree.


14 posted on 10/31/2004 9:23:48 AM PST by Oblongata
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You have been here longer than six months so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. This is the sort of question sophisticated trolls will ask, as a back door into presenting "negative facts" that would otherwise be dismissed immediately.

I will just ask this: what useful purpose does this vanity post serve?

Have you noticed that when stupid charges are made and ignored they sink like an anchor and never heard from again? Why do you feel compelled to keep the topic alive?

15 posted on 10/31/2004 9:30:11 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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Because Kerry foolishly used combat fatalities as a campaign issue during the debates. It would be nice to see some pressure put on him by us and the media to admit casualties are declining.


16 posted on 10/31/2004 9:32:23 AM PST by Oblongata
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To: marty60
1 is to many.....but that is the price we pay.

That is why Kerrey's monumentally immature and stupid question is so egregious: "How would you like your child to be the last one to die in a useless war?"

D'Oh!

about the same as if she were the first.
and it wouldn't matter if it was a useless war or the most clearly noble one. A parent's pain in boundless.

Qualifying it in a most trivial and stupid way does not alter it one iota.

17 posted on 10/31/2004 9:35:05 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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But the true disgusting fact is that the Media and much of the public use these numbers as the sole basis of whether we are winning or not. A reduction helps the cause here at home.

Only for the simple-minded on both sides.

18 posted on 10/31/2004 9:37:15 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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It would be nice to see some pressure put on him by us and the media to admit casualties are declining.

A thoroughly useless excersise!

That plays directly into his hands. He wants to discuss body counts; he wants to discuss "winning the peace". Both monumentally sick red herrings. Why would anyone want to play his game? If he is totally ignored he looks like the fool that he is.

19 posted on 10/31/2004 9:44:54 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Publius6961

Well then, I'm sorry we're all so simple minded. No one's forcing you to sit here and converse with us half-wits.


20 posted on 10/31/2004 9:45:11 AM PST by Oblongata
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