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Mt. Soledad Cross war Ordered Removed by Activist Federal Judge
American Family Association | November 23, 2004 | watchdog_writer

Posted on 11/23/2004 10:18:39 AM PST by watchdog_writer

AFA Action Alert

Ask President Bush To Make To Make The Mount Soledad Cross A National Monument

Save the historic cross from another ACLU-backed removal

A 43-foot tall cross that was erected atop Mt. Soledad in San Diego, California 50 years ago to honor our nation’s veterans faces imminent removal unless we act now. An ACLU-backed atheist has waged a 15-year court battle to force removal of the famous cross. And a federal court has ordered the city of San Diego to remove it.

However, one option remains. Federal law known as the Antiquities Act authorizes the President to designate landmarks and structures as national monuments and make the property on which the monument stands federal property. President Clinton used this law to establish numerous new national monuments during his term. In addition, the Historic Sites Act allows the Secretary of the Interior to designate certain sites national historic landmarks and bring them under the care of the National Park Service.

Just this month, on Veterans' Day, a new plaque was added to the Mt. Soledad Memorial to honor President Reagan, further strengthening its status as a monument worthy of national protection. Thus, it is fitting that the President formally designate Mt. Soledad as a national memorial park for veterans, and save it from destruction at the hands of the ACLU.

Take ActionPlease send an urgent email to President Bush TODAY and ask him to make Mt. Soledad a national memorial.

Send your letter to President Bush now!

Sincerely,

Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association


 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; activistjudges; atheists; campelliot; camppendleton; churchandstate; cross; dukecunningham; duncanhunter; koreanwar; mcasmiramar; mrsoledad; mtsoledad; northisland; purge; randycunningham; sandiego; veteran; veterans; warmemorial

1 posted on 11/23/2004 10:18:41 AM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: watchdog_writer

BTTT!


2 posted on 11/23/2004 10:20:11 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Prime Choice

You'll have a better chance getting Bush to respond if you remind him that illegal aliens can use the cross as a guidepost.


3 posted on 11/23/2004 10:23:00 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: watchdog_writer

Another example of the left rewriting our history. Soon the pilgrims won't be people fleeing religious persecution. It'll be a bunch of English men that weren't told what to think by their government and thus accedently wandered onto a boat and across the pond.


5 posted on 11/23/2004 10:24:24 AM PST by tfecw
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To: watchdog_writer

Duncan Hunter just got this provision added to the spending cap bill that was just passed. It was all over the news in San Diego. The Cross should be safe for a little while, at least until Judge Jones decides that this move was unconstitutional, which will take a few weeks.


6 posted on 11/23/2004 10:28:35 AM PST by Defiant (Democrats: Don't go away mad, just go away.)
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To: watchdog_writer

The Licoln Memorial will be next, since Lincoln's second inaugural address figures prominently, reading in part:

"Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes his aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered--that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has his own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses! for it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh."

Clear violation of separation of church and state, and a real danger to freedom, don't you think?


7 posted on 11/23/2004 10:31:14 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Ted, the ants are back.")
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To: watchdog_writer
Congressmen Duke Cunningham and Duncan Hunter have added making the Korean War-era war memorial San Diego landmark at Mt. Soledad a federal war memorial to the omnibus spending bill. It is assumed Bush will sign it.

Cunningham is in San Diego and hopes to meet with Mayor Murphy about the City ceding control to the Feds. There's already a warm memorial association maintaining the property.

One atheist has been trying to remove this piece of San Diego history for 15 years now. He twice found judges to overtune good-faith sales of the property to private interests. A third (fourth?) attempt to get a sale failed at the ballot box due this month due to massive confusion over whether a Yes or a No "saves the cross"--the people have voted multiple times to keep the cross where it is.

Tell City Hall to work quickly with the Feds to transfer this to federal control.

Note the walls with images of the fallen heroes.

Notice it is used as a landmark by aviators as evidenced by the image above. From the location you can see vitually all of San Diego. You can see into Mexico to the south, across the Pacific to the west. You can see Camp Pendleton, MCAS Miramar, UCSD and more.

8 posted on 11/23/2004 10:33:46 AM PST by newzjunkey ("The rule of law has become confused with - indeed subverted by - the rule of judges." - Robert Bork)
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To: Defiant

you kind of wonder how far it'll go. I'd say roughly 70 percent of the monuments in dc have god refrences...lincoln, kennedy, the declaration of indep. Constitution ect.

Maybe I should and try and get them banned. Hopefully that will finally get the populas in an uproar and so something about it. I wonder if michael moore is doing a movie about that...whoops i almost forgot...michael is the name of one of the archangles...michael is banned, as is adam,eve,john, paul, christopher, mary ect ect ect


9 posted on 11/23/2004 10:34:45 AM PST by tfecw
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To: watchdog_writer

bump


10 posted on 11/23/2004 10:34:51 AM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: watchdog_writer
U.S. Congress Acts to Save the Mt. Soledad Cross - Atheist Blames ‘Jihad Jesus Republicans’

RANCHO SANTA FE, CA — In a surprising turn of events, the United States Congress has joined the fight to keep the 43-foot tall cross atop Mount Soledad in San Diego, California, by designating the land on which it stands and the granite memorial walls surrounding it, a national veterans memorial. The congressional action came as a result of efforts by the Thomas More Law Center.

San Diego area Congressmen, Reps. Duncan Hunter, R –El Cajon, and Randy “Duke” Cunningham, R-Escondido, inserted the memorial designation as part of a spending bill awaiting approval by President Bush.

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Law Center responding to Paulson’s comments, “Those who want the Mt. Soledad cross removed erroneously base their case on the metaphor ‘separation of church and state,’ a phrase nowhere in the Constitution. This cross and memorial, soon to be officially designated a national veterans memorial is constitutionally permissible. It’s time to stop government by the ACLU and for the ACLU.”

President Bush is expected to sign the bill within the next few weeks.

According to the congressional designation, once the City of San Diego donates the land to the United States, the Secretary of the Interior shall administer the Memorial as a unit of the National Park System, giving the Mt. Soledad Memorial Association the right of continued maintenance of the cross and surrounding granite memorial walls and plaques.
11 posted on 11/23/2004 10:50:52 AM PST by truthseeker04 (Thomas More Center 1 - ACLU 0)
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To: Prime Choice

Clinton used this act to turn an area of the West about the size of three small eastern states into a human "no-go" area. "Stroke of the pen, law of the land, kinda cool, huh". While Bush bones up on this maybe he could return the zillion acres Xlinton gave to his hysterical green supporters back to the rest of us to use in the traditional manner.


12 posted on 11/23/2004 10:53:33 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: watchdog_writer

I would rather have president Bush declare the ACLU a terrorist organisation. As it is.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 11:03:11 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: tfecw
Soon the pilgrims won't be people fleeing religious persecution.

Too late, but it's liberal minded people who just "wanted to live thier lives" fleeing the strict moralists.

14 posted on 11/23/2004 11:21:42 AM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: tfecw
Soon the pilgrims won't be people fleeing religious persecution. It'll be a bunch of English men that weren't told...

Nah, it'll be a bunch of English homosexual men fleeing religious persecution. Just like that Alexander guy, bisexual player, as it were. Alex liked kissing the boys, at least according to historian/film-maker Olley Stone. (Just more homo bs).

15 posted on 11/23/2004 11:45:36 AM PST by searchandrecovery (No clever ideas in over: 8 days.)
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To: tfecw
Heard recently that they are now teaching in some schools that the first thanksgiving was about the pilgrims thanking the native americans for helping them and was not about religion at all.

Makes one wonder where the so-called educators involved learned to read. After all, there are original source documents for this.

16 posted on 11/23/2004 1:17:23 PM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: All

 Reaganaut wrote:

 it's liberal minded people who just "wanted to live their lives" fleeing the strict moralists.

 This is what the First Amendment actually states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..."

          The first settlers were Christians, a fact that Reaganaut failed to mention. They didn’t immigrate to the new country to merely live their lives free from any religious references in their government, schools, public lands, and court houses.

          Reaganaut didn’t take the time to consider that any reasonably intelligent and good faith interpretation of the non-establishment clause simply provides that “CONGRESS”, shall not establish a national religion as did England.

James Madison stated that “the people feared one sect might obtain a preeminence, or two combine together, and establish a religion to which they would compel others to conform.”

Any reasonable interpretation of that statement is that those who just “wanted to live their lives” wanted to be free from religion. Frankly, that’s a liberal talking point that has no substance.

 

 

17 posted on 11/26/2004 6:28:18 PM PST by watchdog_writer (God blessed America for the next FOUR YEARS!)
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To: skip_intro

;-)


18 posted on 11/26/2004 6:35:04 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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