Posted on 11/25/2004 2:49:04 AM PST by beyond the sea
One more thing about the arrogant Rather and the ongoing spin that "it was all just an innocent mistake".
This two-man SeeBS "investigation" of Documentgate or Memogate is most likely going to try to inform America that it was merely a "mistake", an "oversight", Rather and Mapes "didn't do their homework". I don't believe it for a second (they were working on the story for years).
All the talking heads and old time-reporters (Bernard Kalb, etc.) have been dragged out and have telling us for weeks what a great, dedicated, truly involved hands-on editor Rather was, and that he never read a story on air that he didn't check and recheck. More bull in my opinion. I fervently believe that he AND Mapes knew those documents were fakes, I believe they knew where they were "created", and they used them purposefully.
So why would Rather use them if he knew they were fakes? There are people much more influential and powerful around and over Dan Rather in the media and at SeeBS. I believe they made him use them in a desperate effort to derail G.W. I think they (the Bush-hating powerful) felt, even if there developed some chatter and disagreement (from Buckhead and all the rest of us in pajamas and in the new world of media and the internet), they felt that they could poo-poo it, and suggest that we were just standing up for a guy we wanted to win the election and who shirked his Guard duty. They thought the damage they could do with the story with the faked documents would overcome any problems of them being exposed. There is no way, in my mind - and I'm 58 years old and wise to the ways of people, that Rather didn't know the documents were faked, he's not that stupid. We know of his history of hating the Bushes and Republicanism in general, but, there were and are others who want to ruin G.W. and his agenda who are much more powerful than Danno. They were ALL involved in trying to ruin G.W., and they thought the power and influence of the "old media" could get them through any exposure.
I don't know how old you are, but when JFK was killed, and the "single bullet theory" was floated and the Warren Commission was thrown out there for Americans to absorb and believe, there were a few courageous people even back in the mid-60's who tried to tell America that it was all bull. But the old media was so much more powerful then that those voices were easily silenced.
These people who wanted Kerry to win this election thought they could get away with the big lies again just as back in the 60's and ever since. They almost were successful, and our vigilance toward the media MUST continue in the future! But, as all these old media whores continue to spin that Rather's Documentgate was just a MISTAKE and that nothing was purposefully done, that to me is absurd and gets me very angry.
These people knew, it was all done purposefully. The results of SeeBS' little two man "investigation" ought to bring a good laugh!
ASA - 69-71.
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Everyone.... here's wishing you all a very pleasant and meaningful Thanksgiving.
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I wonder if Dan Rather will ever get it that God is more powerful that he is?
You really don't think he knew they were fakes? That seems so hard for me to believe. He was working this story for years. And no matter what can be said about his sick bias, he's not a stupid person. He had to have known, imo.
For his sake, I hope so.
Bye bye Dan. It was a mistake but it wasn't one.
They should fire him and the crew.
Happy Turkey day .
gungaDan wanted the story to be true so bad, he didn't care if the memos were fakes or not - they looked good enough to support his story, so he went with them - and it came back to bite him in the butt - big time.
Cat Stevens fan?
Goodnight sweetheart...It's time to go.....
Rather is as corrupt as the Warren Commission, the 9-11 Commission, the Clintons, the black caucus, the NY Times, the alphabet media, etc. etc..
It is beyond the ignorance of the Jimmy Carters and Al Gores of this country. It is a deliberate attempt to remove the United States from power on the worlds stage. It is a war for ideologies, begun long ago, which will be continued for as long as America is the "king of the hill".
Like Microsoft and Wal-Mart are magnets to the hate groups, so America, magnified thousands of times, is a magnet of all who hate us, including her own people.
The truth is there is absolutely no reason to hate President Bush.
Dislike his policies ... sure. But hate?
This man is the epitome of genuine God fearing, American patriot.
Rather and the ilk that he represents are the enemy.
Like Rather, they must be beaten, not just held in check, as we did this election, but beaten!
We the people are waking up, and the perverted, amoral left is being shown for what it is. Not an opposition party, but our mortal enemy. Bigger and more dangerous than any terrorist.
Have a happy Thanksgiving and God bless America.
I agree, their arrogance is amazing. Bernie Goldberg (Arrogance) is right.
But I will never be convinced that Mapes and Rather were not involved in knowing that these "documents" were not frauds before they used them.
The ongoing, relentless spin by all the old f*rts (Bernard Kalb, etc.) in the media to protect the image of themselves in the old media and to cover for Danno, that it "WAS ONLY A MISTAKE" is total covering-their-*sses baloney to me. They knew. SeeBS probably knows who created them.
It amazes me that anyone thinks that people like this at SeeBS were only involved in "an innocent mistake".
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Happy Turkey Day back to you!
Bernie Goldberg..concerning the fake documents:
"Dan may have been taken for a ride...but he was a willing passenger."
Boy, that sounds right. Danno had a pre-paid "ticket to ride". LOL
If you can take the pain, I just found this relative suck-up piece on Blather at the New York Observer:
http://observer.com/pages/nytv.asp --
Dan Rather Says He'd Have Liked Another Decade
Yes, I've been there many times.
Dan's had his sick, bent way for decades, and the old media f*rts all cover for each other. (I saw that pathetic MSNBC lovefest too.)
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'The Wall Within' is totally disgusting, too!
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