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RIP Jay Van Andel
1 posted on 12/07/2004 1:04:29 PM PST by Pest
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Multi-Level Marketing bump.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 1:06:01 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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Hope this doesn't mean that two people under him now die, and the two people underneath each of them, and the two people underneath each of them, and so on, and son on, and so on . . . . : )


3 posted on 12/07/2004 1:06:58 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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His mausoleum will be shaped like a pyramid.
4 posted on 12/07/2004 1:07:40 PM PST by mict42
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I wonder if he tried to trick his friends and neighbors into dying too.


7 posted on 12/07/2004 1:08:19 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Condolences to the up line.
8 posted on 12/07/2004 1:09:05 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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11 posted on 12/07/2004 1:11:23 PM PST by Constitution Day
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Sad to hear this. I was in Amway once upon a time and though it's not for me I got to know some of the best people I've ever had the chance to know through it. I feel the people were a reflection of the founders, Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel, two men who I have always had a high level of respect for. May Jay rest in peace and may God comfort his family and the DeVos family.


14 posted on 12/07/2004 1:17:03 PM PST by mafree
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At least he lasted longer than teh founder of Herbalife.. Mark Hughes.


15 posted on 12/07/2004 1:21:04 PM PST by dc-zoo
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Too bad...he was a giant in this area. Very generous with his wealth.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 1:23:25 PM PST by DouglasKC
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Jay Van Andel was born June 3, 1924, in Grand Rapids, Mich. He is a graduate of Grand Rapids Christian High School and attended Calvin College in Grand Rapids; Morningside College in Sioux City, Iowa; Pratt Business School in Pratt, Kansas; and Yale University Aviation Cadet School in New Haven, Connecticut. He served as a United States Army Air Force Officer from 1942 to 1945 and as a Reserve Officer from 1945 to 1950. In 1952, Van Andel married the former Betty Hoekstra of Grand Rapids. They have four children.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 1:26:18 PM PST by Pest (I will choose Free Will!)
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27 posted on 12/07/2004 1:33:12 PM PST by Pest (I will choose Free Will!)
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OMG! That means two people have to die. And then those two people will cause two other people to die. And then . . .

It's a massacre!

33 posted on 12/07/2004 1:49:36 PM PST by AmishDude
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The truth about AMWAY is ugly. The entire wealth of the founders and their top recruiters was built not on the sale of products, but of inspirational tapes and books they produced. Giving away some of his ill-gotten gains might have eased his guilt, but the guy made enough on others gullibity and insecurity to fatten up the camel he's got to ride through the eye of the needle.


34 posted on 12/07/2004 1:53:48 PM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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Amway: The second most successful Ponzi Scheme in History.

The most successful, of course, is Socialist Security.

36 posted on 12/07/2004 1:59:09 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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From the Detroit Free Press:

Jay Van Andel, Amway co-founder who championed conservatism, capitalism, dies at 80

December 7, 2004, 3:24 PM

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) -- Jay Van Andel, a co-founder of Amway Corp. who helped parlay neighborhood soap sales into a billion-dollar business and later became a leading philanthropist for conservative causes, has died. He was 80.

He died Tuesday at his home in Ada, just east of Grand Rapids, according to Amway's parent company, Alticor Inc. The cause of death was not disclosed but Van Andel had Parkinson's disease, a disorder of the central nervous system that involves a degeneration of nerve cells in parts of the brain.

His wife, Betty Van Andel, died Jan. 18 at 82 at the family home on Peter Island in the Caribbean. She had Alzheimer's disease and had been in declining health for some time.

Jay Van Andel and Amway co-founder Richard DeVos reshaped their hometown of Grand Rapids over the years with their investments and donations. Many of the buildings and institutions in Michigan's second-largest city bear one of their names.

"Obviously we were very close to him. He's going to be sorely missed," said DeVos' daughter-in-law, state GOP Chairwoman Betsy DeVos.

The Van Andel and DeVos families gave a combined $95 million between 1990 and 1998 alone.

"We are all saddened by the passing of Jay Van Andel, who was a great family man and a worldwide leader in the business arena," said former President Ford, who grew up in Grand Rapids and was a close friend of Van Andel.

Amway now operates in more than 80 countries and territories around the world, with 13,000 employees and millions of distributors. Privately held by the Van Andel and DeVos families, Alticor Inc. -- formed as Amway's parent company in a 2000 reorganization -- reported sales of $4.1 billion the following year.

Alticor had worldwide sales of $6.2 billion for the year ending Aug. 31, 2004, $1.3 billion more than in 2003, the largest increase year-to-year in the direct-selling company's history. The company said Asia -- and China in particular -- continued to be its primary market and the top region for sales growth.

The Federal Trade Commission charged in 1969 that the Ada-based company was an illegal pyramid, but ruled after a six-year investigation that it wasn't.

The company also has been controversial because of its almost evangelical zeal in promoting free enterprise, and gained attention with DeVos' and Van Andel's high-profile participation in Republican politics.

Much of Van Andel's giving went toward Christian causes, including a creation research station in rural Arizona...


40 posted on 12/07/2004 2:03:07 PM PST by RonDog
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Will they rent a funeral home or bring the casket to your door?


46 posted on 12/07/2004 2:09:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Air conditioners don't kill people, French snobbery toward air conditioners kills people)
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didn't know he was conservative. have to stop dissing Amway, then.


50 posted on 12/07/2004 2:27:45 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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Amway was never for me as much to the distain of my yuppie colleagues, I'm happy to purchase through garage sales, Ebay and thrift shops. However for others, Amway seems to provide an important social network.
51 posted on 12/07/2004 2:28:41 PM PST by fso301
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Jay Van Andel beat us to heaven. May God comfort his grieving family.
53 posted on 12/07/2004 2:29:51 PM PST by Jaysun (Trees are a renewable resource you idiots.)
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From my experience there were two (or more) totally different forms of AMWAY. I think Van Andel and De Vos basic idea was genius. I sell to my friends and family, they sell to their friends and family, they in turn sell to their friends and family, and voila you get a network of sales going. You, being at the head of the chain (or the middle of the network) get a commission on all the volume the passes through you up to the corporation.

Nothing wrong, illegal, immoral, or fattening about that concept at all. In fact, makes a lot of sense. Why buy soap from the grocery store when you can buy it from your aunt Emma and help her out a little?

Somewhere along the line, the concept became corrupted...and I don't think it had anything to do with Van Andel or De Vos. Also about the same time frame, somebody introduced religion into the mix. Add a few big egos from some "rubies" and "emeralds" who hadn't made "Diamond" status yet, and you ended up with the Amway of the late 70's - early 90's -- the Amway culture that became "cult" like. More money was being made on the sign-ups, motivational tapes, seminars then on the actual selling of the products. (Not that there was anything really wrong with that.)

When I entered Amway in the mid-90's a couple of different factions of Amway were still fighting for control, and they had differentiated into -- Business Amway and Religion Amway. But by then the name Amway was verboten. I was told not to volunteer the name Amway. And if somebody said, "Is this Amway?" I was told to reply with, "Well, which Amway do you mean, the old Amway or the new Amway?" and then explained how Amway was in the middle of reinventing itself.

It never really took off. Didn't Amway change the name of their multi-level marketing business to something else in 98 or 99? I don't remember what they are calling to now.

But a word about the motivational stuff -- most of it was pretty good. I spent three years reading every motivational/self help book I could get my hands on. Eventually a buddy and I designed our own motivational program and we presented it to some kids in Juvenile Hall. I don't think we had much impact, but it was cool to try.
56 posted on 12/07/2004 2:47:24 PM PST by birbear (Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.)
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