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Emory Professor Calls President a Despot, Voters Stupid.
The Atlanta Journal and Constitution ^ | 12/14/2004 | Perry Treadwell

Posted on 12/14/2004 10:32:58 AM PST by groanup

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To: twigs
"Read The Theme is Freedom by M. Stanton Evans. He debunks this myth. Thoroughly."

Wow - thanks for the recommendation. I went to Amazon and ordered it for my Christmas present to myself! It gets great reviews - 5 stars - from the nine reviews posted on Amazon.

41 posted on 12/14/2004 11:06:14 AM PST by jazztrptman (Bremer was the problem, not the lack of troops.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Actually, AH saved the country from Aaron Burr becoming president. That's a good thing. We should be eternally grateful to Hamilton for this if for nothing else. All of the founding fathers were concerned about the mob mentality of the common man. Look at how "democracy" works in some places and you can see how right they were to have concern. That's why we are a constitutional republic. Wisdom these men possessed!


42 posted on 12/14/2004 11:10:40 AM PST by twigs
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To: groanup
The people are stupid. Otherwise why would they allow our freedom go down the drain and keep voting for Democrats and Republicans so we can never regain it?
43 posted on 12/14/2004 11:10:51 AM PST by Protagoras (Christmas is not a secular holiday)
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To: jazztrptman

You're in for a treat. I couldn't put it down.


44 posted on 12/14/2004 11:11:32 AM PST by twigs
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To: jazztrptman

Very good idea!!! M. Stanton Evans is the greatest.

I remember one of his columns which asked the rhetorical question, "Can there be such a thing as a Leftwing Death Squad" and then he cited the Washington Post for always using the phrase Rightwing Death Squad for any murder of a Leftisit in El Salvador but attrrbuted the murders of government or Rightists to "the military wing of the FMLN" What could the Post say in response??? Evans had em.


45 posted on 12/14/2004 11:13:31 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: Protagoras
"The people are stupid. Otherwise why would they allow our freedom go down the drain and keep voting for Democrats and Republicans so we can never regain it?"

But doesn't this election show that they are getting smarter? Treadwell interprets this as their getting dumber. No, the lockstep idiot vote is being taken over by the carefully informed vote due to new media, etc.

46 posted on 12/14/2004 11:14:49 AM PST by groanup (Rats are afraid of the light so spread a little sunshine.)
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To: groanup

Yeah, the voters voted for the most pro-big government president since LBJ. Is that smarter? I suppose it depends on your point of view.


47 posted on 12/14/2004 11:15:54 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: groanup
When Treadwell complains about students lacking a critical spirit, he does not realize that left-wing professors foster this attitude.
As Tom Wolfe pointed out during a recent interview, most students are preoccupied with getting A's and are unwilling to risk a grade to argue with a professor.
Students know that these professors are spouting nonsense, but its easier (and safer) to regurgitate whatever the sludge fed them by these loony lefties.
48 posted on 12/14/2004 11:23:01 AM PST by quadrant
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To: groanup
If I remember right, Hamilton wanted to raise a large army and invade the Caribiean (which had the serious money crop of the day). And then continue on and take South America in order to completly eliminate European influence from the Americas.

Kind of radical, but it would have been an interesting world if we had done it.

49 posted on 12/14/2004 11:23:24 AM PST by narby
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To: groanup
But doesn't this election show that they are getting smarter?

No. They voted for big intrusive government again.

No, the lockstep idiot vote is being taken over by the carefully informed vote due to new media, etc.

Carefully informed? LOL

50 posted on 12/14/2004 11:23:26 AM PST by Protagoras (Christmas is not a secular holiday)
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To: Protagoras; Austin Willard Wright

I hate to tell you guys but you're not going to wake up one day and find that the Federal Gov't has been cut in half. It takes time and if you can't see the progress that's being made you're not listening. You guys vote libertarian?


51 posted on 12/14/2004 11:28:27 AM PST by groanup (Rats are afraid of the light so spread a little sunshine.)
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To: groanup
As Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

That's the famous quote by PT Barnum. It is often attributed to Lincoln, but historians have now concluded that he did not say it.

52 posted on 12/14/2004 11:34:14 AM PST by narby
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To: groanup

Progress? You mean the biggest increases in government since LBJ? That is regress rather than progress.


53 posted on 12/14/2004 11:39:01 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: groanup

Can't find Perry Treadwell on the University Website.

As an alumnus, disappointing on several levels, but not surprizing.


54 posted on 12/14/2004 11:39:59 AM PST by frithguild (Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on the Exploration an Use of Outer Space - Establish Private Property)
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To: groanup
I hate to tell you guys but you're not going to wake up one day and find that the Federal Gov't has been cut in half.

You make that up all by yourself? Because I know no one else had any such childish visions.

It takes time and if you can't see the progress that's being made you're not listening.

If you can't see that there is no net progress, you are delusional.

People are bamboozled by the two (?) parties. And many of the delusional people who think the Republicans have made any progress in making government smaller and returning our freedoms are right here on this forum. And no, I didn't vote for the Libertarian candidate for President, not that it's any of your business. I know you just asked that so you could find a way to attack the messenger and change the subject.

Please name one program that has been eliminated since the Republicans took control of all the branches of government.

55 posted on 12/14/2004 11:41:02 AM PST by Protagoras (Christmas is not a secular holiday)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
"Yeah, the voters voted for the most pro-big government president since LBJ. Is that smarter? I suppose it depends on your point of view."

How about phrasing it as voting for the candidate that was the lessor proponent of big government??
56 posted on 12/14/2004 11:42:20 AM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: JesseHousman
Emory (yawn) University.

Yawn all you want, but Emory's a top twenty university. That doesn't mean the author isn't an idiot, of course. Even Harvard/Princeton had/has Cornel West.

57 posted on 12/14/2004 11:44:12 AM PST by KevinB
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To: Protagoras

Who pi**ed in your cornflakes this morning? I was simply pointing out to you that Republicans right now are the lesser of two evils. You have to start somewhere. What choice did we have on November 2?


58 posted on 12/14/2004 11:51:59 AM PST by groanup (Rats are afraid of the light so spread a little sunshine.)
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To: Getsmart64
How about phrasing it as voting for the candidate that was the lessor proponent of big government??

Are you sure it isn't the lessee?

59 posted on 12/14/2004 11:52:44 AM PST by Protagoras (Christmas is not a secular holiday)
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To: Getsmart64
Who knows? One would think that Clinton wanted more government than Bush but the facts proved otherwise. Bush has increased government in his four years (in domestic policy!) than Clinton did in his eight.

Given this, it is altogether that once in office Kerry would have brought about smaller increases than Bush. In part, this would be because, unlike Bush, he probably would have been constrained by a re-energized Republican Congress. Under Dubya, of course, the Congress is just a rubber stamp.

60 posted on 12/14/2004 11:53:46 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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