Does anyone have a link debunking the 100,000 dead Iraqi statistic?

[Maceman]

A beloved if misguided cousin forwarded me this idiotic "Not One Damn Dime" e-mail touting a national anti-war protest on January 20, to wit:

We support the troops but feel that the polititians need to know that they need to find a way to end this fast! Maybe this will help get them the message.

Not One Damn Dime -- Spread the word!

This might be the closest we could come to a general strike in this country and could be powerful symbolically if it were wide spread...

Not One Damn Dime Day - Jan 20, 2005

Since our religious leaders will not speak out against the war in Iraq, since our political leaders don't have the moral courage to oppose it, Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One Dime Day" in America.

On "Not One Dime Day" is for those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending.

During "Not One Dime Day" please don't spend mone! y . Not one dime for gasoline. Not one dime for necessities or for impulse purchases. Not one dime for anything for 24 hours.

On "Not One Dime Day," please boycott Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target etc...

Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter).

For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down.

The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it.

"Not One Dime Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United ! S tates of America, not for the international corporations and lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.

"Not One Dime Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way.

Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home.

There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One Dime Day" you take action by doing nothing.

You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed.

For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one dime, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.

Please share this email with as many people as possible.

[Maceman]

I remember seeing an article debunking the 100,000 dad Iraqi statistic cited in this article. Can anyone provide a link that I can send to my cousin?

Also, has anyone else seen this e-mail, and does anyone know anything about who is behind it (like A.N.S.W.E.R., perhaps)?

Thanks.

[the Real fifi]

The fraudulent study was by Lancet,,I do not recall who did it but a number of people did roundly debnk this figure. Google Lancet Iraqi war dead and you probably will be on your way.

[Congressman Billybob]

This very article was discussed in detail, here on FreeRepublic. This is a bigoted "research" article, made up from bad statistics from a poor source. It is, in short, a fraud.

Congressman Billybob

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[hinckley buzzard]

This has been addressed here before and I'm sure someone will come up with a link. You could try searching some keywords in the meantime.Yes, the 100,000 figure is BS.

[West Coast Conservative]

Iraq Body Count states that about 15,000 civilians have died.

[jayef]

It was debunked at Slate of all places.

Here:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/

[RightWhale]

Debunked yet still quoted

[Cobra64]

Not a problem in the Davis household. We're already contributing through taxes.

For other charities, we only contribute to our Church.

[Zephirum]

If these are the numbers the mainstream press is using, no wonder it is hard to believe them. I still wonder how they can decide that these were civilian casualties since the enemy we are fighting doesn’t wear a uniform. Is it from the suicide bombings that the different tribal and Islamic fundamentalists are carrying out upon their own people?
Are these figures supposed to dissuade us from our helping out this country? I guess it is easy to forget the amount of people that the former dictator of this country put to death during his reign.
Where’s the good stuff?!!

[AndyStevenson]

Typical liberal plan - "Lets make a point by SHREDDING THE VERY FABRIC THAT MODERN SOCIETY RUNS ON." Sheesh. Ridiculous.

Maybe I should save all my purchases up for that day, and get it all out in one massive orgy of consumerism.

[U S Army EOD]

Tell him the figure is closer to 1,000,000 but these are the people your cousins hero Saddom killed. Also tell him another one of his heros, Pol Pot, killed about 2,000,000.

[ol' hoghead]

Maybe I should save all my purchases up for that day, and get it all out in one massive orgy of consumerism.

That's what I plan to do. Wal-Mart for groceries and et c. Maybe even buy a nice .22 rifle at the hardware store.

ol' hoghead

[Maceman]

Tell him the figure is closer to 1,000,000 but these are the people your cousins hero Saddom killed. Also tell him another one of his heros, Pol Pot, killed about 2,000,000.

Mu cousin happens to be female, and she is VERY smart, very cool and very sweet. But like many people (especially those living in the northeast) she is not that political.

If I may be permitted a personal observation, I think you would better serve our side if you would learn to differentiate between the well-meaning but misinformed (who can be won over with patient good will and rational discussion) and the hard-core social engineering progressives (who cannot, and with whom there is never any point in arguing except as an exercise to work on one's debating skills).

[FreeAtlanta]

We have had 1,500 dead, so I certainly hope we have killed a 100,000 bad guys. I don't think we have killed very many civilians.

Before the war, the left (amnesty international, etc.) was saying that there would be 300,000 civilian deaths. As usual, they were wrong.

[ddtorque]

another debunking here:
http://www.chicagoboyz.net/archives/002543.html

[Prov3456]

Post #6 has linked to the article I printed out at the time. Great article.

I also have a paper copy of the New York Times article about the same study. Since I don't know how to create a link, here's the title, etc:

"Study Puts Iraqi Deaths of Civilians at 100,000" by Elisabeth Rosenthal, October 29, 2004.

[raybbr]

Amnesty International, which criticized and drew attention to the brutality of the Saddam Hussein regime long before the governments which launched the 2003 attack on Iraq, estimated that violent deaths attributable to Saddam's government numbered at most in the hundreds during the years immediately leading up to 2003. Those wishing to make the "more lives ultimately saved" argument will need to make their comparisons with the number of civilians likely to have been killed had Saddam Hussein's reign continued into 2003-2004, not in comparison to the number of deaths for which he was responsible in the 1980s and early 1990s, or to casualty figures during WWII.

From the website you linked.

[Choose Ye This Day]

Not one dime day...

It's called Sunday for me.

[enotheisen]

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/press/

[msnimje]

It said 100,000 people DIED not were killed. People are misinterpreting the results of what is most likely a faulty study. I would guess the fine folks at NRO or Townhall debunked the numbers.