Posted on 01/11/2005 10:00:38 AM PST by kattracks
(CNSNews.com) - California could cut taxes, fully fund education and balance its budget by seceding from the United States, a newly organized group says.
The Committee to Explore California Secession, also known as Move On California, says it hopes to bring people together to consider the merits of an autonomous and independent California.
Those benefits would be both financial and political: "For every dollar Californians give to the federal government we see only 78-cents come back," the group's website says. It also expresses concern about "the diminishing voice of Californians in national politics" and "national trends that are tipping the balance in the direction of the religious conservative agenda."
[Contrary to what Move On California claims, California Republicans now chair six U.S. House committees, giving California more congressional clout than any other state, Fox News reported.]
Jeff Morrissette, the founder of Move On California, says the secession buzz began shortly after the November 2004 re-election of President Bush. But, he says, politicians from both parties object to subsidizing other states at a time "when those California tax dollars could be better spent at home to shore up our own fiscal problems."
According to Morrissette, if Californians could control the $40 billion that goes to pork barrel spending projects in other states every year, they could give state taxpayers a $20-billion tax cut and still have enough money to fully fund California spending priorities, specifically education, and balance the budget at the same time.
Morrissette says momentum is building for the California secession movement. "While secession may be a long-shot," he says, "it will succeed in bringing awareness to many of the grievances California has politically, socially and fiscally."
"Californians are getting pushed around and it's time we pushed back," he said.
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Can you see California with a miltary? They could have two very unique divisions for the miltary. One would be the pink squad.. and the one would be the infamous green card division.
I'm shaking all ready.
LOL!
Give them the Channel Islands but no boats.
Drop em off
and forget em!
Ya...we would just let them go. It's what we've always done in the past when states have attempted it.
And I'll move to Texas.
The secession of California should be the goal of every true patriot. If they leave the Union, we should put up a big wall and not let any of them out (after first giving all real Americans trapped there a decent opportunity to join us). Most bad ideas start in California and eventually pollute the rest of the country.
Great, Less Electoral Votes for the DIMs! FR may have to relocate though....
"Just cut off the infection from the BLUE counties on the coastline and we will keep the good RED ones...there are lots of good RED counties in California"
Remember, there are a lot of us good "red" people living in the bluest of the blue areas of this insane state.
Only if Arnold gets to be President lol, with the kind of Liberals you get in California we would go broke in no time.
Perhaps, but they would have substabtial difficulty finding enough water and electricity to go around.
uh...yeah, right. That'll happen.
Ditto that... the red counties/cities are growing. They should carve the state around all the blue counties and cities and give them a little push into the pacific so it can attach to Mexico.
But it is illegal to secede from the Federal Union. The Federal government will go to war to prevent it. See what happened between 1861 and 1865.
There are MANY who'd like to see California secede (both within and from outside it), for a large variety of reasons.
I must say none of my reasons are in concert with this group's.
Even though this is blue group craziness, I think the consensus on the secession concept is, no you can't seceed once you join the union, and (maybe unfortunately), once you are a state in the union, we can't kick you out, either...
We might be willing to go with that. Beautiful country!
Seems the Framers knew what they were doing when they left out any Constitutional mechanism for secession. Of course, that could be solved by amendment.
And they think this is something the rest of us would regret? I was rather stunned yesterday evening to see a TV report that virtually EVERY major committee in the new congress is chaired by a California Republican. That's a lot of power for a group that can't win their state for a Republican president in the last four elections. Somehow it doesn't seem fair.
Comedian.
Aside from the CA National Guard (40th ID - Golden Bears), there is the CA State Military Reserve.
Plus the legions of California servicemembers, Army, Navy, Marine, Air Force and Coast Guard bases already here.
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