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NO OFFENSEUS watchdogs reject TV complaints
Chortle Online ^ | 1/26/2004 | Unknown

Posted on 01/26/2005 8:17:37 AM PST by Sensei Ern

American TV watchdogs have rejected a raft of complaints about everything from Friends characters discussing a phallic-shaped cake to mention of homosexual kissing on Will And Grace.

Clean-up campaigners the Parents Television Council filed 36 complaints about incidents they thought were dragging down standards.

They also included an episode of The Simpsons in which striking students carried banners saying "Don't cut off my pianissimo" and the scene in the Austin Powers movie where a naked Mike Myers had his genitals hidden by cunningly-placed objects.

The Federal Communications Association rejected all the complaints, ruling: “None of the segments were patently offensive under contemporary community standards and thus not indecent. The commission also found that the material was not profane, in context.”

Tim Winter, executive director of the Parents Television Council said: "In three recent indecency rulings, [the FCC] has sanctioned the following content during the so-called family hour: a high school teacher refers to one of his students as ‘a big dick’; criminals hire a prostitute to have sex with a horse; and jokes about pedophilia and Michael Jackson’s penis. By what community standard is it not patently offensive during the family hour to broadcast these things?”

The complaints are part of a concerted effort to clean up TV following the incident at the Superbowl where Janet Jackson flashed a breast, leading to record fines for broadcaster CBS.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bozo; brentbozell; brentbozo; censorship; freedomgrabbers; sensorship; television
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I think the PTC is doing the right thing. Even if you think they are going too far, it's ok, because TV always does less than asked. Similar to how Hillary's conservative "leanings" will keep our conservatives in order.
1 posted on 01/26/2005 8:17:39 AM PST by Sensei Ern
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To: Sensei Ern

If the PTC wasn't responsible for greater than 99% of all FCC complaints I might consider the complaints worth looking at.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 8:18:52 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Sensei Ern

The PTC's censorship crusade is indecent.


3 posted on 01/26/2005 8:20:45 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("We clearly screwed up on the communications," Detroit Mayor Kilpatrick - after caught in a lie.)
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To: Sensei Ern
"Don't cut off my pianissimo"

I heartily agree with these students. It's very annoying when the audience applauds before the last faint notes of a performance die away. "The Simpsons" is one of the few worthwhile progams left on TV. They could take the rest and deep-six them.

Fortunately, for whatever reason my kids don't seem to have any urge to watch these shows. TV used to be addictive to kids, but it's reached such a low level of stupidity that it's lost even that quality.

The best solution is not censorship but to turn off the boob tube except as a DVD monitor.

4 posted on 01/26/2005 8:24:15 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sensei Ern

There is a simple technological solution to this problem.

It's called the "ON/OFF" Switch. Set it to the "Off" position, and the TV cannot POSSIBLY say or show anything anyone might consider offensive.

BTW, there is no Right to Not Be Offended. PTC, as well as members of the Politically Correct Left, seem to think there is. . .


5 posted on 01/26/2005 8:27:21 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I think they should keep it up. However, the FCC has no intention of doing anything. Maybe a new chairman will actually listen to what people are saying. And please don't bother with the lame, "if it offends you, turn if off" crap.


6 posted on 01/26/2005 8:39:30 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Phantom Lord

"If the PTC wasn't responsible for greater than 99% of all FCC complaints I might consider the complaints worth looking at."

Amen. They are the organization who cries "wolf" everytime the leaves rustle.


7 posted on 01/26/2005 8:41:46 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: mlc9852
You mean you are incapable of turning it off?

And if the content on TV was so offensive, wouldn't it stand to reason that more than a measly .2% of all FCC complaints would come from somewhere other than the PTC?

The PTC is responsible for 99.8% of all FCC complaints, and the complaints they do file are nothing more than boilerplates sent out to their members for submission.

8 posted on 01/26/2005 8:50:34 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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That's because, as I have learned, a single individual complaining to the FCC doesn't merit a response. I don't watch TV, except news, sports and occasionally PBS. I am just saddened by the coarse, crass culture that America has become. I have tried to raise my children to be honest, caring, respectful people. It's difficult to do so with TV, movies, magazines, and music telling them "if it feels good, do it". I suppose complaining about obscenity makes me a prude and uptight, sexually repressed, blah blah blah. Look at the teenage pregnancy statistics as an example of what our "freedom of expression" has gotten us. They can learn about oral sex in school, but certainly don't mention God. In the end, our country will get exactly what we deserve.
9 posted on 01/26/2005 9:08:51 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Sensei Ern
“None of the segments were patently offensive under contemporary community standards and thus not indecent."

The problem with this statement is that for the past forty years, television has been instrumental is setting (or perhaps more accurately, reducing) those standards.

Appealing to "contemporary community standards" is always a little slippery. As Bruce Cockburn says in his song, "The trouble with normal is, it always gets worse."

10 posted on 01/26/2005 9:17:58 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: mlc9852
Look at the teenage pregnancy statistics as an example of what our "freedom of expression" has gotten us....

As if there is a link between the two.

By the way, teen preganancy rates are going down in the U.S.

11 posted on 01/26/2005 9:36:01 AM PST by gdani
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To: mlc9852
And please don't bother with the lame, "if it offends you, turn if off" crap.

Why not? Too easy of a solution?

12 posted on 01/26/2005 9:38:09 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani

Compared to when? Certainly not to before there was television. I assume you don't have children.


13 posted on 01/26/2005 9:40:29 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: gdani
As I said, I don't watch it so I don't care. But I believe it does influence people, especially children. And what passes as entertainment often goes against what parents want their children to see or hear. The public airwaves are not owned by entertainment conglomerates, they are owned by the public. There is a great difference between censorship and good taste and responsibility.
14 posted on 01/26/2005 9:43:48 AM PST by mlc9852
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Compared to when? Certainly not to before there was television

If you can find stats and/or research proving a link between teen pregnancy rates & television viewing please post them for all of us to see.

I won't hold my breath.

15 posted on 01/26/2005 9:47:52 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/teen_stats.html

Shows abortions as well.


16 posted on 01/26/2005 9:56:41 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
And what passes as entertainment often goes against what parents want their children to see or hear.

Agreed. And so parents should take all necessary steps to ensure their kids don't have access to that entertainment. And keep the Govt out of it.

The public airwaves are not owned by entertainment conglomerates, they are owned by the public.

"Owned by the public". Yeah, right.

In any case, the "public" votes on this issue by way of their viewing habits and in case you haven't noticed, "Desperate Housewives" is a top five show.

There is a great difference between censorship and good taste and responsibility.

Yes. The difference is whether the Govt gets involved. I am for small Govt & do not believe they have a role in regulating content. It's a pity you are for big Govt.

17 posted on 01/26/2005 9:57:53 AM PST by gdani
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To: mlc9852
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/teen_stats.html

You must be confused. I asked for stats that prove your point, not mine.

And no matter what stats say, the issue of teen pregnancy has way too many factors & variables involved to boil it down to "TV watching = increased teen pregnancy" as you shamlessly claim.

18 posted on 01/26/2005 10:01:49 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
I'm not for big government at all. Just asking for entertainment executives to show a little respect and consideration for impressionable minds. The government usually isn't the answer to a problem, I realize. But I suppose the FCC exists for some reason, although I'm not sure what it is, except maybe to OK mega-mergers. Would it be okay with you for porn to be on network broadcasts? Are you bothered by lyrics to some music played on the radio? As for Desperate Housewives, I've never watched it so I can't comment on it. My point is that people who think parents can control everything their children see and hear are not living in the real world and most likely don't have children of their own. I grew up at a time when the family could watch TV or listen to the radio together without embarrassment. I realize those days are gone. I just am not anxious to see what the future of entertainment will bring.
19 posted on 01/26/2005 10:09:12 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: gdani

I would never say the cause of teen pregnancy was TV. The cause of pregnancy is sex.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 10:10:07 AM PST by mlc9852
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