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1 posted on 01/28/2005 6:41:50 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Eldredge believes many Christian men have become bored, "really nice guys" and invites them to rediscover passion by viewing their life's mission as having a battle to fight, an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue.

Sounds like St. Ignatius' Society of Jesus, aka the Jesuits.

2 posted on 01/28/2005 6:53:04 PM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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I will find a copy of this book.

It sounds as though it is long overdue.

Best regards,

3 posted on 01/28/2005 6:53:32 PM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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4 posted on 01/28/2005 6:54:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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Read the Bible. The whole thing... Old Testament and all.

I did for the first time after 40 years as a Christian. Made me realize that the 'nice guy' theology I had been taught was a crock.

-- Joe


5 posted on 01/28/2005 6:57:03 PM PST by Joe Republc
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Wild at Heart was the most incoherent book I've ever read.

This article explains what the Etheridge may have been trying to communicate--it certainly isn't what he wrote.

Tedious, tedious reading.


6 posted on 01/28/2005 6:58:03 PM PST by exit82 (Ted Kennedy--swimming in lies since 1969.)
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He sanctifies a mythological view of 1950s malehood

I think this guy is engaging in his own psychobabble. What's not to like? Nothing's ever going to please the handwringers.

However....being a warrior today is different, in at least one sense. Some all-powerful 'judge', given the impramatur of society and with the force of (cough) 'law', can pauperize an innocent man with the stroke of a pen.

Whatcha gonna do? Whip out your braveheart sword? (You'll have to go get it 'cause it was confiscated at the metal detector).

In at least that sense, the courts have gone a long way toward emasculating warrior wanna-be's.

7 posted on 01/28/2005 6:59:18 PM PST by 1john2 3and4 (Where are all the celebrity "Human Shields" for Iraq when they're REALLY NEEDED?(Sunday's Election))
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I recommend "Promise Keepers" !
10 posted on 01/28/2005 7:02:54 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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"It is destructive (to marriages) in the long-term," Clark said, adding that treating women as a figurine rather that the personal image of God will hurt relationships over time.

Claptrap!

Women NEED to respect their man. They don't respect one who won't fight for the family. No one says he has to be the one who always wears the championship ring, but he does have to be the one who willing to get down in the trenches, win or lose.

What happens to a man who senses he's not respected by his woman?

Now THAT'S depression!

12 posted on 01/28/2005 7:08:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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While this is needed, society bashes men who are men and not wimps, so without support this movement will not fly.


18 posted on 01/28/2005 7:31:33 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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The same advice holds true for conservatives who leave the street fighting to the rest of us.


22 posted on 01/28/2005 7:40:28 PM PST by international american (Tagline not convinced.............................)
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Ridiculous. Why can't a person be a nice guy and still be a warrior? My definition of a nice guy is exactly that. A guy who believes in God, justice, America and the family.

A person who isn't a nice guy is the guy who acts tough by beating his wife and kids. He's the coward who expects the govenment to take over his problems.

The guy who isn't a nice guy is on "COPS" being tossed into the police car while his bloody wife is standing outside her trailer.


24 posted on 01/28/2005 7:43:41 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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HERE, HERE!!!!!!

this is exactly what men need to hear....that their mission, their role, their vocation if you will here on earth is to be the leaders, and that means the leaders of character and courage as well.....

and let's face the fact that the coming confrontations with the Islamists will require a great deal of steadiness and courage under fire, both literally and figuratively...

25 posted on 01/28/2005 7:48:46 PM PST by cherry
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A good read very related to this story... It will surprise a lot of Christians to know that Jesus was a Man, not a Woman.

Click "HERE" Are Christian's Nicer than God?

26 posted on 01/28/2005 7:48:51 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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[ Christian men called to become 'warriors', not 'nice guys' ]

Interesting figment.. However it leads to the question, "What the hell is a christian ?"... Some christians are socialists <--meaning slavery by government.. March one of them "christians".. out here... and let's get at look at em'...

28 posted on 01/28/2005 7:56:50 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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I am amazed that Christian men need a book to tell them how to engage their families and be warriors in their life. Read your Bible and be faithful to do what it says.

We truly are a post Christian nation.

I'm sure King David needed a analysis at least twice a year to make sure he wasn't being a couch potato.

32 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:57 PM PST by Popman
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"The real test of this ("Wild at Heart") is does it make life better for women? Does it make life better for children?

No, the real test is does it make better MEN ? The rest will follow.

34 posted on 01/28/2005 8:06:10 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow; John O; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I might be interested in reading the book if it came my way. Jesus Christ's message, from my reading, calls all of us - men and women alike - to be warriors for the truth.

Regarding male and female roles, much of what passes for behavior currently is miserable attempts to thwart nature's laws. And the effects are disastrous. Men are being emasculated and weakened, and women are trying to be men; everyone's exploiting each other, thus hardening their hearts.*

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
*Speaking in cultural generalizations, obviously.


37 posted on 01/28/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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The time is ripe for Christians as a collective to become more vocal, and if and when necessary, more militant. It's a matter of life or death.


43 posted on 01/28/2005 8:33:18 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (There is more to life than "the party." Please visit www.terrisfight.org)
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Become a firefighter.


51 posted on 01/28/2005 9:03:31 PM PST by Porterville (Never compromise what is right. Take your time to insult a liberal or have one unemployed.)
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I recommend to those who haven't read Wild at Heart, to do so. If the book "speaks" to you as a man, go to the conference. (There is a women's conference as well but not based on the Wild at Heart book) It is a powerful and moving experience and could change your life. Judge things by their fruit. If the fruit stinks, it is not from God. From what I've seen in my life as well as my friends that have read the book and been to the conference, this fruit does NOT stink.


54 posted on 01/28/2005 9:18:59 PM PST by jrsillinigop (Psalm 4:23)
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