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Lessons From NYC Actress' Death (Nicole duFresne shouldn't have taunted mugger...)
CBS News ^ | February 3, 2005 | Tom Hays

Posted on 02/03/2005 6:00:06 PM PST by Gondring

As an actress, Nicole duFresne had roles in dozens of way-off-Broadway productions.

But it was an unfortunate real-life line witnesses say duFresne uttered before her slaying — "What are you going to do, shoot us?" — that has brought her to the public's attention.

Authorities have refused to speculate whether the 28-year-old actress and playwright's defiant stand against a bandit prompted him to shoot her to death last week on a New York City street.

"Regardless of what the victim said or did not say, the person responsible for her death is the one who pulled the trigger," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said earlier this week.

Safety advocates, however, have cited the case as a lesson in how not to respond to a holdup.

On Wednesday, the Washington-based National Crime Prevention Council responded to widespread reports about duFresne's last words by circulating a list of tips on how to survive a mugging.

"It demonstrates that confronting an attacker is probably the worst thing you can do," said council spokesman Todd Post.

DuFresne, a Minnesota transplant who had lived in Seattle before coming to New York, listed "stage combat" as one of her skills on her Internet resume. She was leaving a bar with her fiancé and another couple at about 3 a.m. Jan. 27 when they were accosted by a group of youths who had already tried to rob another person earlier in the evening.

Witnesses told police that when the group demanded the other woman's purse, duFresne responded with: "What are you going to do, shoot us?" Police said she also might have gotten into a brief shoving match with the shooter before he fired a bullet into her chest.

Police arrested the alleged triggerman, Rudy Fleming, 19, and two teenage girls they say took a cell phone and credit cards and helped hide the murder weapon. All three have been charged with murder and robbery.

On its tip sheet, the crime prevention council advises potential victims to stay cool and comply with robbers. At the same time, people should take mental notes on what the assailant looks like so they can provide a detailed description to police, the sheet says.

A robbery "is more about power than anything," said Alfonso E. Lenhardt, president of the nonprofit council, known for its McGruff the Crime Dog mascot.

"It's a tragedy, but in this case it sounds like (the suspect) felt he wasn't getting the respect he was due," Lenhardt said. "When a gun is in the hands of a desperate person with low self-esteem, they're going to react that way."

The others charged in the killing are Ashley Evans, 18, and Tatianna McDonald, 14. Two young men were charged in the earlier robbery attempt, while two other youths are considered by police to be witnesses.

A graduate of Emerson College in Boston, duFresne was a founding member of the Present Tense Theater Project and acted with the LAByrinth Theater Co., according to her online resume. She wrote a play called "Burning Cage" with Mary Jane Gibson, the woman with her and her fiancé at the time of the shooting.

"Burning Cage," about two women in an asylum who are targeted for brainwashing experiments with LSD, toured in 2002 at fringe theater festivals in Canada and the United States.

DuFresne's other play, "Matter," is about an amnesiac whose apartment is taken over by a violent and seductive intruder. It was performed in Brooklyn in 2003.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blamethevictim; dufresne; lessons
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They forgot the part about "without a gun" when they are talking about it being a bad idea to confront an attacker. I guess that's one lesson they didn't learn. They need to talk to Gary Kleck or look through the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports to see how to keep from being injured in a robbery attempt.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 6:00:06 PM PST by Gondring
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To: Gondring

As cold and heartless as it sounds, she got what she asked for.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke-free since January 16, 2005)
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To: Gondring
On Wednesday, the Washington-based National Crime Prevention Council responded to widespread reports about duFresne's last words by circulating a list of tips on how to survive a mugging.

1. Shoot the mugger.
2. Shoot the mugger again.

3 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:17 PM PST by mwyounce
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To: Gondring

There is such a thing as a stupid question.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:52 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Gondring


Also if there were stronger penalties, maybe the guy would have thought TWICE before pulling that trigger.

He'll be out in a few.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:58 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


She didn't ask for it.


6 posted on 02/03/2005 6:03:37 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: Gondring

A big mouth is usually not a match for a gun.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 6:03:59 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Gondring

Common sense says you don't talk back to someone holding a gun which is pointing at you. You certainly don't ask them if they are going to shoot you!


8 posted on 02/03/2005 6:04:54 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Gondring

I agree. There are various ways of confronting an attacker. Daring him to shoot you is about the dumbest I can think of. But making him think you are completely helpless and will do anything he demands is not smart, either, as numerous cases have shown.

Unfortunately, it's easy to Monday morning quarterback about such things, but no one knows what they will do in that kind of situation until it actually happens. Some people will panic, some will freeze up, some will try to deal with it the best they can.


9 posted on 02/03/2005 6:05:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
maybe the guy would have thought TWICE before pulling that trigger.

Mmmm, I don't know. Seems like a guy that mugs you in the middle of the night isn't much of a thinker.

10 posted on 02/03/2005 6:05:34 PM PST by silent_jonny (The Nightime Sniffling Sneezing Coughing Aching Stuffyhead Fever So You Can Freep Medicine)
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To: kcvl

This is a bunch of crap, IMHO. There have been countless incidents where the victim completely cooperates with the criminal, who then blows them away as they leave.


11 posted on 02/03/2005 6:06:17 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

According to eyewitnesses she had said "Why don't you just use a gun?". Her attacker pulled out a gun and shot her.


12 posted on 02/03/2005 6:06:46 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke-free since January 16, 2005)
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To: kcvl

This is a bunch of crap, IMHO. There have been countless incidents where the victim completely cooperates with the criminal, who then blows them away as they leave.


13 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:00 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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To: ambrose

Everything is playing the odds. Your odds are much better if you don't get into a debate with the mugger.


14 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:20 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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Harsher penalties are a Deterrent.

Think about Drunk Driving. Increase the penalty, death goes down.
15 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:31 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Right. I mean, taunting and daring a thug with a gun to shoot her. She got what was coming to her. Sounds a little harsh, but hey, stupid is as stupid does.


16 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:33 PM PST by stan the beaver (We will kill the ones who eat us, and eat the ones we kill!!)
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To: Cicero

I would grab the arm holding the gun, break his arm in half from the elbow, heat butt the perp, flip him around and then snap his neck.

Hey, if it works for Ahnold...


17 posted on 02/03/2005 6:08:01 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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To: Gondring

If you are going to talk tough, you better have the means to back it up. She lived in a fantasy world, and probably thought she could write (talk) herself out of the situation as if it were a script.


18 posted on 02/03/2005 6:09:23 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: beaversmom

Sadly, that's probably true.


19 posted on 02/03/2005 6:10:21 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Gondring
From my gun safety training, I've learned not to point a gun at anything I'm not willing to destroy.

That means, if it's pointed at me, someone is going to destroy me. I'm going to keep my trap shut and look for a chance to shoot, run, floor it, or fight, depending on the situation.

People kill people. It's the shooter's fault. She didn't deserve this at all, but unfortunatly, she didn't have street smarts and made herself an easy target.

20 posted on 02/03/2005 6:10:59 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Republican Party Reptile)
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