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Lessons From NYC Actress' Death (Nicole duFresne shouldn't have taunted mugger...)
CBS News ^ | February 3, 2005 | Tom Hays

Posted on 02/03/2005 6:00:06 PM PST by Gondring

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They forgot the part about "without a gun" when they are talking about it being a bad idea to confront an attacker. I guess that's one lesson they didn't learn. They need to talk to Gary Kleck or look through the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports to see how to keep from being injured in a robbery attempt.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 6:00:06 PM PST by Gondring
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As cold and heartless as it sounds, she got what she asked for.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke-free since January 16, 2005)
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On Wednesday, the Washington-based National Crime Prevention Council responded to widespread reports about duFresne's last words by circulating a list of tips on how to survive a mugging.

1. Shoot the mugger.
2. Shoot the mugger again.

3 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:17 PM PST by mwyounce
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To: Gondring

There is such a thing as a stupid question.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:52 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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Also if there were stronger penalties, maybe the guy would have thought TWICE before pulling that trigger.

He'll be out in a few.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:58 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


She didn't ask for it.


6 posted on 02/03/2005 6:03:37 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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A big mouth is usually not a match for a gun.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 6:03:59 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Common sense says you don't talk back to someone holding a gun which is pointing at you. You certainly don't ask them if they are going to shoot you!


8 posted on 02/03/2005 6:04:54 PM PST by kcvl
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I agree. There are various ways of confronting an attacker. Daring him to shoot you is about the dumbest I can think of. But making him think you are completely helpless and will do anything he demands is not smart, either, as numerous cases have shown.

Unfortunately, it's easy to Monday morning quarterback about such things, but no one knows what they will do in that kind of situation until it actually happens. Some people will panic, some will freeze up, some will try to deal with it the best they can.


9 posted on 02/03/2005 6:05:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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maybe the guy would have thought TWICE before pulling that trigger.

Mmmm, I don't know. Seems like a guy that mugs you in the middle of the night isn't much of a thinker.

10 posted on 02/03/2005 6:05:34 PM PST by silent_jonny (The Nightime Sniffling Sneezing Coughing Aching Stuffyhead Fever So You Can Freep Medicine)
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This is a bunch of crap, IMHO. There have been countless incidents where the victim completely cooperates with the criminal, who then blows them away as they leave.


11 posted on 02/03/2005 6:06:17 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

According to eyewitnesses she had said "Why don't you just use a gun?". Her attacker pulled out a gun and shot her.


12 posted on 02/03/2005 6:06:46 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke-free since January 16, 2005)
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To: kcvl

This is a bunch of crap, IMHO. There have been countless incidents where the victim completely cooperates with the criminal, who then blows them away as they leave.


13 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:00 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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Everything is playing the odds. Your odds are much better if you don't get into a debate with the mugger.


14 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:20 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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Harsher penalties are a Deterrent.

Think about Drunk Driving. Increase the penalty, death goes down.
15 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:31 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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Right. I mean, taunting and daring a thug with a gun to shoot her. She got what was coming to her. Sounds a little harsh, but hey, stupid is as stupid does.


16 posted on 02/03/2005 6:07:33 PM PST by stan the beaver (We will kill the ones who eat us, and eat the ones we kill!!)
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I would grab the arm holding the gun, break his arm in half from the elbow, heat butt the perp, flip him around and then snap his neck.

Hey, if it works for Ahnold...


17 posted on 02/03/2005 6:08:01 PM PST by ambrose (...)
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If you are going to talk tough, you better have the means to back it up. She lived in a fantasy world, and probably thought she could write (talk) herself out of the situation as if it were a script.


18 posted on 02/03/2005 6:09:23 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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Sadly, that's probably true.


19 posted on 02/03/2005 6:10:21 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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From my gun safety training, I've learned not to point a gun at anything I'm not willing to destroy.

That means, if it's pointed at me, someone is going to destroy me. I'm going to keep my trap shut and look for a chance to shoot, run, floor it, or fight, depending on the situation.

People kill people. It's the shooter's fault. She didn't deserve this at all, but unfortunatly, she didn't have street smarts and made herself an easy target.

20 posted on 02/03/2005 6:10:59 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Republican Party Reptile)
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