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To: King Prout
Here's another article with more info. The guy seems to be a total nutcase:
German scholar is exposed as fraud.

The creationoids will have a ball with this. They can add it to their tiny list of fraudulent finds, like Piltdown Man. But it should be noted that the frauds were exposed by scientists, not creationists (who deny the validity of the means used to test the fossils).

37 posted on 02/19/2005 9:34:06 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

well, one of the scientific method's true strengths is its innate tendency towards self-correction through constant re-evaluation.

but, yes, the uber-creationists will have a field day over this.

oh, well: even a stopped clock...


38 posted on 02/19/2005 9:37:20 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Indeed. Science is self-correcting, and this man will be marginalized and discredited. If only other fields of endeavor had the same standards...

There have been one or two other high profile cases in recent years. There was a young physicist who was on the road to superstardom and got caught pretty quickly (he was German I think, working at Bell Labs), and a veteran Danish ecologist who worked on swallows (I'm not sure how his case turned out in the end). I heard also that that guy Lomborg, the author of that book The Skeptical Environmentalist, was having one or two problems in this area in his native Denmark.

40 posted on 02/19/2005 10:16:58 AM PST by Youngblood
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To: PatrickHenry

They only accept Carbon dating if it proves scientists wrong. Of course, creationists ignore the fact they don't do any science and could not find something wrong if their lives depended on it.

Yet, they know enough to know that all of biology is wrong.

It gives cognitive dissonance new frontiers.


48 posted on 02/19/2005 10:54:13 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The creationoids will have a ball with this.

Well of course they will! This is indisputable proof that the entire work "supporting" the so-called "theory" of evolution is all a lie; it's nothing but a sham aimed at destroying our faith in God and turning us into Nazis/Communists/heathens/barbarians/homosexuals.

Why look at the facts when you can point to one case of fraud?
50 posted on 02/19/2005 11:05:04 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: PatrickHenry

"The creationoids will have a ball with this. They can add it to their tiny list of fraudulent finds, like Piltdown Man. But it should be noted that the frauds were exposed by scientists, not creationists (who deny the validity of the means used to test the fossils)."


Applying the creationoid standard to Christianity means that every digraced pervert priest, every adulterating, money-laundering televangelist, and every action of fringe Christian cults only mean that Christianity is itself a farce.


56 posted on 02/19/2005 11:30:15 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: PatrickHenry

This German scholar has dragged out a huge problem. They are now going to have step back and redate every piece of history that he ever touched. This process...could take well over five years. And the cost...just a guess...but I'd be figuring well over $10 million.

And the million dollar question...who else has been doing this? And could the environmentalists with climate models be in the same group?


361 posted on 02/21/2005 2:53:55 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: PatrickHenry
tiny list of fraudulent finds

The list may be small, but it's what this "tiny" list claimed to be true, turned the world upside down and continued to perpetuate an agenda.

Heck, the evolutionist are getting as bad as the early church selling trinkets to the faithful to believe

377 posted on 02/21/2005 5:13:36 AM PST by Popman
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To: PatrickHenry
The creationoids will have a ball with this.

But just for the record, you are the twit that opened that can of worms and ruined a good thread.

385 posted on 02/21/2005 6:50:49 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: PatrickHenry

Not all those who believe in creation deny carbon dating methods, or believe the world is 10,000 years old.


471 posted on 02/22/2005 7:05:12 AM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: PatrickHenry
But it should be noted that the frauds were exposed by scientists, not creationists (who deny the validity of the means used to test the fossils).

Not the means: the conclusions.....

542 posted on 02/22/2005 12:50:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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