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1 posted on 02/28/2005 8:09:59 AM PST by boris
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AMD is fine, pitch Norton. Norton sucks bigtime.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 8:12:30 AM PST by BullDog108 (Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God.)
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I suspect the problem is with Symantec, not AMD. I bought Ghost just last week, and when I tried to install it, nothing happened. It turned out Symantec shipped a lot of them with bad serial numbers, and they wouldn't activate.

I had System Works 2004 on my old computer, and on multiple occassions, I had to reinstall it due to software errors.

I've started using PCcillin, and it's been fine so far.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 8:15:16 AM PST by LanPB01
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I know it's no help to you, but my experience with four AMD systems over several years is that I've never had software not work and the systems have all been very dependable and stable.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 8:15:32 AM PST by RJL
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I have built nothing but AMD computers for the past seven years. I have never, EVER had a single compatibility issue in that time. (40-50 systems) Either there is an issue with something other than the AMD processor, or your problem is with the Symantec software. I have been having increasing problems with their stuff lately.
7 posted on 02/28/2005 8:15:37 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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I second BullDog108's comments: Keep AMD and ditch Norton SystemWorks (NSW). That is, unless you know how to disable everything in NSW except Norton AntiVirus. Why? Mainly because NSW is a complete system resource hog, and it'll slow your entire machine down.


8 posted on 02/28/2005 8:16:01 AM PST by LeeHarvey
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What version of NSW are you trying to install? I have the 2004 version on my AMD system. AMD Athlon XP 1900+, MSW XP Pro SP 2, 512 MB RAM, ASUS A266E (I think) it's an older motherboard for Socket A CPU's. You may have some issue with XP's Service Pack 2. It has never caused any problems for me, but others have had problems. Try Windows update to update your Windows installation, check for running Anti-Virus programs--maybe other brands


10 posted on 02/28/2005 8:17:37 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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It's not the processor, it's the software.


11 posted on 02/28/2005 8:18:20 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Toora, Loora, Loora)
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I was instructed by the dealer of my AMD to use AVG Free Edition, Lavasoft Ad-aware SE Personal, and the Google Toolbar. All free and all are working fine.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 8:18:46 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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If you need antivirus software, try AntiVir Personal Edition.

It's free, works great and has a new virus definition update file every week.

14 posted on 02/28/2005 8:18:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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Use AVG Antivirus, Sygate Personal Firewall, but if you want an all-in-one product, buy V-Com System Suite, and you'll be covered. I have System Suite, but I disabled the anti-virus tool, since I already use AVG.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 8:22:26 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Toora, Loora, Loora)
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Skip the system works and only install the AV program.


17 posted on 02/28/2005 8:23:35 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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I have the AMD 64 3200+ cpu on an Nvidia 3 chipset mb and run Win XP Pro 32 bit OS.

My Norton SW 2003 works and I've pared it down to just running Ghost and Norton AV 2004. The rest of SW is junk. Ghost is a great backup and I back up my C: drive to a separate hard drive. I've restored my C: drive several times with Ghost and it has saved my bacon each time.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 8:24:43 AM PST by RicocheT
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I thought by now AMD systems would be fully compatible; evidently I was wrong.

Evidently you have mis-diagnosed your problem. I have Systemworks 2005 running right now. There are no problems with it. Whatever is preventing your install, it isn't the processor.


22 posted on 02/28/2005 8:28:44 AM PST by Nick Danger (The only way out is through)
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I have had problems with McAfee. I gave up on McAfee about two years ago. It kept causing my system to crash, and no matter how many times I uninstalled it and reinstalled it, the problem persisted.

McAfee recommended that I manually uninstall it. That would have been great, if I were a computer geek with a lot of extra time on my hands. So instead, I simply uninstalled McAfee, and installed Norton.

At first, Norton seemed better, but now I'm having the same problems with it. The only upside is that I can generally uninstall it cleanly, and reinstall. After about 4 or 5 installations, I get one that works--or at least seems to.

One of the tricks to getting a good installation of Norton is to install only what you need. You don't need Ghost. I generally install the virus protection and the firewall. Sometimes, I use Norton Utilities (WinDoctor only), but I jettison that if I have problems. The rest of the frills just make the system less stable. Norton Utilities can be run from the CD anyway, provided that you don't care about saving the restoration files.

23 posted on 02/28/2005 8:29:07 AM PST by Brilliant
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I don’t know if this will help you, but I had problems installing McAfee on a couple of machines. The problem was a worm that disabled the anti-virus software.

Take a look at what processes are running and make sure one isn’t a virus (you can do a search on each name).


24 posted on 02/28/2005 8:29:57 AM PST by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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Keep AMD. Get Trend Micro for your AV. When you get rid of Norton make sure you regedit to clean out all the remainders. This is a problem. I've been through this on 6 machines. (All AMD) We dumped Norton. You'll find that the PC journals feel similarly. www.pcmag.com www.pcworld.com www.cnet.com

Trend updates itself automatically, which Norton never quite seemed to be able to do, despite their claims.


25 posted on 02/28/2005 8:30:02 AM PST by cowtowney
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I would guess it's your software and not the hardware. Since Norton sold the Business to Symantec in 1990, the package has been garbage. While you will find a few people that have no problems, most have plenty of problems. The alternatives are many. I prefer Mcafee and have installed it on many systems without any problems.

But as it is with anything in this world, there are a few who have had problems with it. No matter what you do however, I would drop Norton. Making sure that you thoroughly remove all instances of it from your computer, including but not limited to, Live Update.

28 posted on 02/28/2005 8:32:24 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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NSW = bloatwear


31 posted on 02/28/2005 8:34:12 AM PST by Drango (Freepmail me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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Which apps in NSW do you use? Anything other than Anit-Virus? As others have suggested AVG by Grisoft is spot on.

If you're wanting to use Password Manager, an alternative is to use Mozilla Firefox for your Browser. A Password Manager is built in.

Also, I use Zone Alarm Pro (US$39) for a firewall. It has more flexibility than the free Zone Alarm.

I also use Microsoft's FREE Anti-Spyware app, which is Giant Anti-Spyware. MS bought the company.

33 posted on 02/28/2005 8:37:21 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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Microsoft lists of uncompatable programs with XP sp2

System works is on the list
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

Upper end AMD chips are great, low end is like Intel's low end, dont trust unless you can lose the data and put up with the pagefaults, etc..


34 posted on 02/28/2005 8:43:44 AM PST by Lotec (Those who regulate what you consume will regulate what you read, think & say.)
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