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Angry dad gives up teen in Nicole slay (NYC Model murder)
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/277448p-237564c.html ^

Posted on 03/02/2005 4:03:59 PM PST by bikepacker67

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To: Theresawithanh

Deserving and feeling bad for someone are too different things.

She was a radical, radical leftist. I remember seeing some of her work, she was type to hang a soldier in effigy.

People should know that when they read this.

Another Jemima Goldsmith type.


21 posted on 03/02/2005 4:33:48 PM PST by NoJoke
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To: speed_addiction

Please reconsider - your daughter is married and your son-in-law is working. All work is honorable. Consider if he were selling drugs, robbing old ladies - or killing for fun and finance.

Your daughter must have found some good qualities in this young man. I am assuming, you raised her with good judgement. Perhaps you could encourage your son-in-law to finish school and reach for the sky. Otherwise you will be estranged from your daughter and ?grandchildren.

Not preaching, just remembering.


22 posted on 03/02/2005 4:35:20 PM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: bikepacker67

OMG this poor man. I feel for him, what he must be going through.


23 posted on 03/02/2005 4:36:20 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: NoJoke

People should know, when they read this, that she was a person out having fun, not doing anything wrong to anybody, going about her life, who was murdered. Her radical leftist views do not factor into the equation, IMHO.

So, sympathy is only offered to people of the conservative persuasion who are murdered? Nice logic.


24 posted on 03/02/2005 4:40:43 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: speed_addiction
I cannot feel bad for Nicole duFresne. She was a trendy upper-class leftist Michael Moore "artist" type with a stereotypical militant black fiancee who was a supporter of a bunch of leftist causes and seemed to be a self-hating white person.

And for that (assuming it is true) she deserved to be shot to death by some punk on the street?

To me, I can't feel sorry for her at all. Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I don't feel bad when I see enemies of the US killed here or in Iraq.

Yes, there is something wrong with you. There is nothing wrong with wanting to see the enemies of the US defeated. But you seem to believe that this actress was the same as some Iraqi car-bomber. Doesn't that seem absurd to you?
25 posted on 03/02/2005 4:40:47 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Mercat

Sometimes kids take the wrong path no matter how hard their parents try to instill them with the values and ethics they'll need to succeed and raise flourishing families in the world. Some kids just have to make the mistakes and learn the lessons the hard way. Sounds like your daughter learned hers.


26 posted on 03/02/2005 4:41:06 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: bikepacker67

Man. A story with no winners.

How very sad for all of them.


27 posted on 03/02/2005 4:41:21 PM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: sodpoodle

Bless you.


28 posted on 03/02/2005 4:41:52 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: sodpoodle
Please reconsider - your daughter is married and your son-in-law is working. All work is honorable. Consider if he were selling drugs, robbing old ladies - or killing for fun and finance.

I appreciate the value of work. What pisses me off about this guy is he lack of ambition. He is already out of school. There are plenty of jobs here. Good paying (but labor intensive) oil field jobs. He refuses to try to do better. He likes the 30 hours a week because it gives him plenty of time to hang out with friends.

I see my grandson. I provide clothes and diapers but that is it. Nothing that can in anyway benefit this asshole comes out of my pocket.

My oldest daughter (though half deaf and half blinded in Iraq) shows more drive than this guy. She has absolutely refused to let her recently aquired disability stand in her way.
29 posted on 03/02/2005 4:41:55 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: mhking
PING!
Click the Graphic J

30 posted on 03/02/2005 4:42:07 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: speed_addiction; NoJoke

Sorry, my previous post was intended for NoJoke, not speed_addiction.


31 posted on 03/02/2005 4:42:44 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Logophile

"But you seem to believe that this actress was the same as some Iraqi car-bomber."

They both work to undermine us, whether it's people like her holding up Palestinian flags in anti-war matches, slandering soldiers at art exhibitions and trying to break morale or actually fighting against them.

Like I said, if someone that is an enemy of the US dies, I cannot grieve for them at all. Paul Wellstone was another one.

I feel bad for this father, not for Nicole or Rachel Corrie or Amy Biehl or the rest of the suicidal leftist cult.


32 posted on 03/02/2005 4:47:48 PM PST by NoJoke
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To: bikepacker67

I feel bad for her that she was murdered, but lost any burgeoning sympathy I might have had for her parents when they used her death to become poster-yippies for the gnti-gun lobby.

Nichole's murder illustrates two glaring problems in our country : (1) the total lack of judgement or control our youth are ENCOURAGED to indulge by the pop-psyhe types because it makes them more open to suggestion is detrimental to society as a whole (2) the fact that a gun was used to murder a woman in a city with gun control laws as strict as those in NYC only further illustrates the TRUISM that if guns are made illegal, only criminals will have guns.

It's sadly ironic that she followed the same ideology that made it so east for this pair od lowlifes to murder her.


33 posted on 03/02/2005 4:47:56 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: lodwick

Yep,

The wages of sin are death. What a senseless waste.

FH


34 posted on 03/02/2005 4:49:50 PM PST by Fish Hunter
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To: speed_addiction

Wow, you've got a lot on your plate. Prayers from Texas. And, many, many thanks to your daughter. My brother is coming home from Iraq this week, thank God.


35 posted on 03/02/2005 4:52:06 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: cake_crumb

"East" was SUPPOSED to be "easy". **Eyore voice** at least it was spelled right


36 posted on 03/02/2005 4:52:26 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: cake_crumb
I really like your last comment.. but I have to ask, don't you PROOFREAD?

I mean nothing ruins a cogent, "well thought out" posting like dumbass misspellings! ;-)

37 posted on 03/02/2005 4:55:22 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: speed_addiction
I remember you mentioning your daughter once before. I've been wondering how she's doing. Sounds like she's got the will and the drive to overcome.

As for your other daughter...those clothes and diapers for your grandson are the most important things you can give. I don't know what relationship you have with her, but she's probably very grateful that her son is getting the things he needs.

As for your SIL...well, maybe prayer will help. It can't hurt. Maybe they'll both straighten up.

38 posted on 03/02/2005 5:00:46 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: bikepacker67

The worst part is that I did proofread it.


39 posted on 03/02/2005 5:01:51 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: SaveTheChief

"Her problem is her mother didn't guide her right," Evans said.

Double-Ahhh. You're either there to raise your kids, or you're not. This piece makes him sound like he's in the running for Father of the Year!

Yes, he did the right thing in this instance, but did there even need to BE an instance? He's not the victim here.


40 posted on 03/02/2005 5:02:24 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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