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Tancredo considers White House bid
World Net Daily ^ | 3/28/2005

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:54:06 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: Liberator
You're the one who cited the local media as an inferred problem for Tancredo -- one that might affect his electability.

Inferred? Pick up a Denver Post sometime and check out the monthly hit pieces on him. When I visited my family in CO a couple of years ago the D Post was all over him because some illegal aliens had been hired by one of the contracting companies when they were working on his house. It would be the equivalent of an going to McDonald's and ordering a burger and having an illegal alien cook it in the back without you ever seeing him. But the childish D Post thought they would run him out of office with that one.

Look, I am a big Tancredo fan because he is addressing a very important issue where most are avoiding it.

281 posted on 03/30/2005 6:47:44 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Once-Ler
The National Council of La Raza is no more racist than the AARP.

If I started a group for whit people with the motto "For the race, everything, for all else, nothing", would you be cool with that?

282 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:41 AM PST by jmc813 (PLAYBOY ISN'T PORN;YES,PLAYBOY ID PORN ... ONLY PHOTOGRAPHED PORN IS PORN)
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To: jmc813; Once-Ler
If I started a group for whit people with the motto "For the race, everything, for all else, nothing", would you be cool with that?

That doesn't mean anything jmc. The La Raza mission statement has been taken totally out of context and translates poorly. Once-Ler say so.

In other news: The Sun rose in the East this morning...Imagine That.

283 posted on 03/30/2005 10:00:22 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Once-Ler
So, what does "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" mean to you?

If the same kind of organization was set up to promote "Caucasian" issues, we'd be labeled racist in a heartbeat and no one would even bother to check out the mission statement.

284 posted on 03/30/2005 10:20:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: jmc813
If I started a group for whit people with the motto "For the race, everything, for all else, nothing", would you be cool with that?

That is not the motto of The National Council of La Raza. That is MEChA's motto. You are lying about La Raza.

285 posted on 03/30/2005 10:43:05 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: WRhine
The La Raza mission statement has been taken totally out of context and translates poorly. Once-Ler say so.

See post 285.

286 posted on 03/30/2005 10:44:48 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: Dead Corpse
So, what does "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" mean to you?

See post 285

287 posted on 03/30/2005 10:45:34 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: Once-Ler
Liar. MEChA's motto is "La Union Hace La Fuerza". Nice try though. MEChA also claims the title "La Raza", or "the Race" as in the "one true Race".

Care to try again?

288 posted on 03/30/2005 11:07:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Dead Corpse; jmc813; WRhine; All
Liar. MEChA's motto is "La Union Hace La Fuerza". Nice try though. MEChA also claims the title "La Raza", or "the Race" as in the "one true Race".

I'm only going by what Michelle Malkin tells me. I should have figured the dumb broad didn't know what she was talking about. Here is what Michelle says...

MEChA's symbol is an eagle clutching a dynamite stick and machete-like weapon in its claws; its motto is " Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada (For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing)."
I don't who owns that motto but is sure as hell isn't The National Council of La Raza. Since you guys are the ones throwing around the alligations it is your responsibility to check your facts.
289 posted on 03/30/2005 11:22:11 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: Once-Ler
If you go to table 6 at the link you provided Historical Budget Data you will see that program spending has stayed consistently about 11% of GDP since 1975.

Dance, dance, dance. Can’t come to grips with the fact that Dubya increased the government at twice the rate of Clinton can you? Did you know that Bush is the first president in American history to not veto a single bill? Not the kind of record a republican should be proud of is it? You seem to find plenty of excuses for Bush's out of control spending. What were you saying about Clinton’s spending when that jerk was in power?

You will also notice that total outlays(spending) is still significantly lower than the Reagan years as a percent of GDP. Discretionary and Program spending has increased slightly as a percent of GDP in the years following 9-11 and the recession. It will go down again.

Nope. Spending will not go down anytime soon with the staggering expenses associated with Iraq’s reconstruction and Bush’s Drug Bill hitting the budget from here on out.

And comparing Reagan’s superpower cold war days to Bush is a classic apples to oranges comparison. Reagan faced quite a dilemma when he took office. The USSR was on the move around the globe setting up proxy regimes while Jimmy Carter before him slashed the military to the point where it was woefully prepared to meet the threat.

Reagan had the unenviable task of rebuilding the military from the shambles Carter left it and having to work with a democratic congress that forced him into taking in their pork in return for greater military spending. Remember when Tip O’Neil called Reagan’s slimmed down Budgets DOA? What is Bush’s excuse? He’s had a republican controlled congress from day one that has only gotten stronger.

Dubya can't sign anything unless the Congress passes it. It passed 76 to 21 in the Senate. If the rats were not clamoring then it is also true they were not opposing. Do the math.

I guess you don’t know the story on this. Dubya twisted arms on capitol him and threatened many a republican lawmaker with their future in the party to pass HIS Drug Bill. This was reported in depth at the time. Why don’t you read the accounts of how this federal monstrosity got passed into law? Or will you have trouble finding links for that too?

You don't need a real social security card to have an employer take out social security taxes. McDonalds takes out social security taxes even if the employee has fraudulent papers.

McDonalds may do that but most Illegals work off the books. It’s another reason why unethical employers find hiring illegals so lucrative. They don’t have to worry about filing and documenting reports to the government.

According to United States Social Security Administration the totalization agreement only applies to 50,000 legal workers.

LOL. You trust SSA’s numbers on this when it is the SSA that drew up the totalization pact with Mexico? Other far more objective sources conservatively put the number of illegal aliens at 300,000. Many think it’s much higher than that. Given the past history with amnesties I’d say the ultimate figure will surpass all estimates. Hell, HLS doesn’t even know how many illegals are in the U.S. or how to track them.

290 posted on 03/30/2005 11:39:54 AM PST by WRhine
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

He's got my vote.


291 posted on 03/30/2005 11:42:17 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

He's got my vote.


292 posted on 03/30/2005 11:42:21 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: Once-Ler; JustAnAmerican
O-L -- "La Raza", translated from Spanish, means: "THE RACE".

It is impossible for an organization so named, to NOT be racist.

293 posted on 03/30/2005 11:49:08 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: Once-Ler
That is not the motto of The National Council of La Raza. That is MEChA's motto. You are lying about La Raza.

The NCLR "LaRaza" had never distanced itself from MECha and both organizations work closely together in lobbying for their political agenda. Given that MECha's motto contains LaRaza's title, don't you think the NCLR would have taken strong steps to make sure there is no confusion in the public with what the NCLR stands for?

294 posted on 03/30/2005 11:49:30 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Once-Ler
What does this say on it?

Enough said.

295 posted on 03/30/2005 11:53:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Rytwyng
What does "Raza" mean and where does it come from?
La Raza is a cultural term that translates poorly into English.

It is impossible for an organization so named, to NOT be racist.

When translated into Chinese, the Kentucky Fried Chicken slogan "finger-lickin' good" came out as "eat your fingers off".

296 posted on 03/30/2005 11:53:48 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: Once-Ler

Nice try. observe their behavior!


297 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:32 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: Rytwyng

Hey! You can't vote twice!


298 posted on 03/30/2005 1:14:57 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Once-Ler; JustAnAmerican
Oh, and another thing -- the MeCha slogan...

Por la Raza, todos -- Fuera la Raza, nada

...means, "For the RACE, everything, for those outside the RACE, nothing." No matter how you spin it (or retranslate it), that is a racist declaration, especially the second clause for which no alternate translation exists.

O-L, however much you may dislike it, you must come to grips with the fact that these "raza" folks are racists.

299 posted on 03/30/2005 1:27:24 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: All

If Tancredo is the nominee, I may vote for him. Then again,
given his violation of his term-limit pledge, I may not. If one cannot trust him in a small thing like a promise to get out of Congress after a certain number of terms, why in the hell should I trust him with command of US nuclear forces?


300 posted on 03/30/2005 1:57:42 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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