Posted on 03/30/2005 7:12:00 PM PST by neverdem
None of that refutes the extensive evidence that he was indeed homosexual. As for Roehm who believes Hitler had any objection to his obvious and totally public homosexual life of which Hitler was completely aware having worked closely with the man for nearly fifteen years. Roehm was killed when it became politically expedient to mollify the Wehrmacht. The mock outrage was mere theatrics like most of the Nazi statements involving virtue.
One of my professors once said "If Hitler had never been born, he still would have been leader of post WW1 Germany. " After thinking about it, I had to concur.
Roehm's homosexuality had nothing whatsoever to do with his being killed duting the Night of the Long Knives.
Hitler needed the backing of the army brass, and they refused to give it as long as the SA remained a threat. Roehm had outlived his usefulness and had been clamoring for more power in the new regime.
The Nazi's "Oh, my they were homosexuals!?!" is akin to Capt. Louis Renault (Claude Rains) saying, "I'm shocked, SHOCKED that there is gambling going on here......."
Only homosexuals of certain political or racial bents were in the camps. Homos built the early Nazi movement and were quite welcome until they became politically inexpedient to associate with and when Hitler was taking steps to hide his own early period within that cult.
The report is flawed, so how much did Wild Bill act on the information?
That is quite true. The Nazis were extremely tolerant of homosexuality (and all sexual deviancy, for that matter). Few, if any, homosexuals were interred in camps exclusively because of their sexual preference.
Exactly. Hitler had dossiers prepared on the private lives of anyone of importance in Germany thus was completely aware of all this sort of thing.
Preciate it.
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John Kerry has relatives in France - and I believe there was talk of a name change in 1946 or so. Hmmmm.... ;-)
Nazism persecuted effeminate gays, butch gays were promoted.
He made a student's living painting postcards. Some talent, but did not get into art school. Had a lifelong interest in architecture, especially design of bunkers.
Yeah, a real genius, getting rewarded by golden showers. Too bad der Fuhrer wasn't pithed like a frog!
I'm always interested in expanding my knowledge and would appreciate it if you would direct me to sources that on an point by point basis rebut the wartime psychological profiles. There are also the accounts of survivors to rebut.
Pointing to Roehms killing in 1934 is unconvincing as gay-on-gay violence is quite common. Also, In addition to a consolidation of power, the killings in the early to mid-1930's also expunged Hitlers past.
Nothing you have written would rule out Hitler doing it with dogs during his years in Vienna, either - except the complete lack of any evidence.
I suspect this means you aren't interested in a serious discussion of the topic.
Where did you find information about Hitler having a son!??!?
Time Magazine ran a story on him when he died, around 1979. That is where I first saw it. He really DID look like his father.
If you search the web dilligently you'll find information on him. I tried Googling just now, but came up with so many irrelevant sites I gave up.
A clear definition of sexuality is first needed. I'm taking the opposing view just for the heck of it.
A lie? How do you know I wasn't stating nonsense just to see where the argument would go?
If you think the concept itself is a lie, you'll need some examples and support for the position. I'll take whatever position makes the most sense at this moment.
I'm really confused about this whole gayness thing. It may be one of the most confusing subjects in existence.
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