[NZerFromHK]

BTW, I would be interested to know what his response to the full blown socially liberal atheists like Ted Turner would be like. Will Wallis declare to Turnr that God is real, and not "just for the weak" as Turner had famously remarked? What will Turner or people like the NYT journalists regard someone who agrees with them on most issues, but believe in God, and speaks out against abortions, porn, euthansia, and gay rights?

And speaking about Euroepan liberalism, there are two threads on British leftism that has attracted quite an America-bashing response from a self-delcared British Conservative here (who is a newbie on FR). Have a look at them and let me know what you think (his screen name is cooper72):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378279/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378395/posts

[okie01]

What will Turner or people like the NYT journalists regard someone who agrees with them on most issues, but believe in God, and speaks out against abortions, porn, euthansia, and gay rights?

That's why I raise the question of "eccentric" vs "apostate".

I'll save the cooper72 threads until morning, if you don't mind. It's 1:40 AM in Texas...well past my bedtime (Rangers 3, Angels 2 in extra innings, on the coast). Thanks for the alert.

Best.