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Does the NRA support voting on judicial nominations?

Posted on 04/24/2005 6:35:03 PM PDT by llevrok

Conservative Radio is reporting that groups like the NRA are not supporting breaking the so-called senate "filabuster" so as not to upset democratic senators who have supported the NRA in the past.


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My letter to the NRA and other conservative groups -

Re Judicial Nominations

Conservative Radio is reporting that groups like the NRA are not supporting breaking the so-called senate "filabuster" so as not to upset democratic senators who have supported the NRA in the past.

The Second Amendment lives and dies on the constructionist strength in our courts. This is far more valuable to me than your relationship with a few liberal senators.

I urge the NRA to fully involve yourself in the push to bring these judge's nominations forward to the Senate floor.

1 posted on 04/24/2005 6:35:04 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

I hope this isn't true. Surely the NRA isn't so naive as to not realize that since the Executive and Legislative branches have basically accepted subservient, inferior status the Judiciary, that the fate of the Second Amendment will thus be decided by the 9 supreme rulers.

The NRA will be in for a rude awakening if they think the individual versus collective (i.e. worthless) right meaning of the Second Amendment won't eventually be settled by the Courts.


2 posted on 04/24/2005 6:41:34 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: llevrok

Funny how when you jump into bed with a pig, you end up sleeping with every other pig they've been with. Some folks just never get it.


3 posted on 04/24/2005 6:43:50 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Aetius

Though on the other hand, maybe a SCOTUS ruling that Americans have no individual Second Amendment rights might just be the thing that puts some steel in the nerves of our President and Congress and State governments to make them fight the Courts and their increasingly absurd rulings and substitution of far-left ideology for sane Constitutional interpretation.


4 posted on 04/24/2005 6:45:14 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: xcamel
It is my understanding that the NJ NRA supported McGreevy on a promise made that was ultimately NOT kept.

So, while I would hope this is not true, it wouldn't surprise me.

6 posted on 04/24/2005 6:46:20 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: OldFriend
Not supporting the termination of a blatantly unconstitutional senate "rule' is a really. really stupid move.
7 posted on 04/24/2005 6:50:36 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: OldFriend; OKSooner

NRA supported Brad Carson in his race with Dr. Coburn even though Carson was only pro-2nd amendment during election years. They lost a ton of support in Oklahoma even when they decided to go back to supporting both. Our local NRA office didn't want anything to do with answering why the NRA didn't come out in support of Coburn.


8 posted on 04/24/2005 6:54:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for Oklahoma Governor -- Run J.C. Run; Allen in 2008)
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To: llevrok
Conservative Radio is reporting that groups like the NRA are not supporting breaking the so-called senate "filabuster" so as not to upset democratic senators who have supported the NRA in the past.

I can't find any evidence for either proposition. Either that the NRA does not support breaking the filibuster for judicial nominees, or that a conservative commentator has reported such. Do you have a cite?

I have found where the NRA has considered the filibuster as a defensive maneuver for LEGISLATION, but that is all I've found.

9 posted on 04/24/2005 6:57:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: llevrok

Laura Ingraham reported this Friday on her show.

IMO, it is a cowardly act. They know full well what is at stake, but don't wish to offend Dem contributors nor make the Dems mad. Unfortunately for them Dems WILL, if in power, put those gun laws back in place.

She said it was the same of other typical groups that tend to back Republicans. She nailed them for it, and stated once again it falls to Christians to get the job done since it is primarily Christian organizations mobilizing in this effort.


10 posted on 04/24/2005 6:58:19 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: llevrok
--the NRA -and I am not an official spokesman- stays strictly with firearms issues.

While it may seem to be Republican leaning (for obvious reasons) it is very prudent to maintain some Demo support for the next time they gain control-which I suspect will be in 2006--

11 posted on 04/24/2005 7:01:38 PM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: llevrok

I suspect that the reason the NRA may be taking a low profile is that the filibuster has been useful in stopping a number of bills the NRA opposed (like the AWB) which would have passed on a simple majority vote.


13 posted on 04/24/2005 7:03:10 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Aetius; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; calcowgirl

I gave up on the NRA when they supported socialist land use over private property rights.


14 posted on 04/24/2005 7:08:11 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: PhiKapMom

That surprises me. Is there a more conservative Senator than Coburn? He and DeMint of SC received the most media demonization of the new GOP Senators last year.


15 posted on 04/24/2005 7:12:19 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: llevrok
On the NRA ILA website they have a lot of pro-rules-change articles and links such as this one from John Lott's website. I didn't see any articles to keep things as they are.

I loved the part about "delays in approving Clinton's minority and female judges showed racist and sexist tendencies in the Senate." Sucks to be the racist and sexist ones now, doesn't it Dems?

16 posted on 04/24/2005 7:13:43 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: llevrok

Sandy Froman, new president of the NRA, spoke at our district meeting, and is very much for the Constitutional option.


17 posted on 04/24/2005 7:15:44 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

No, the NRA doesn't. The GOA has been constantly going on about the dangers of this, ignoring the fact that it only applies to judicial fillibusters.


18 posted on 04/24/2005 7:16:49 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: farmfriend

They didn't.

They only supported the bill as far as hunting rights was concerned. And that was only a small portion of the bill.


19 posted on 04/24/2005 7:19:06 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Wrong. See my post #17 ... how are ya?


20 posted on 04/24/2005 7:20:18 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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