SAAMI weighs in on ammunition serial numbering scheme

SAAMI ^ | 4/26/05 | SAAMI

[Vaquero]

"It looks as if I ought to buy a reloading kit early for Father's Day, huh. Consider the word spread." yeah....and buy some molds and some lead to pour into the molds...once you have the molds you always have the bullets.... even better....lets defeat this crap before it takes affect.

[oldenuff2no]

I've been reloading for about 40 years, I think I will have to give hand-loading lessons. You can buy bullets by the 1000 or 10,000, and powder by the keg. Is there an acceptable way to say "kiss my @$$."

[45Auto]

"This bill, when coupled with the certain abandonment of the California market place by ammunition manufacturers, becomes a de facto ammunition ban and confiscation. Consumers may possess non-serialized ammunition in their home, but the moment they walk outside their house to drive to their local shooting range for an afternoon of target shooting they become a criminal. The only realistic option for consumers is to turn over to local enforcement any non-serialized ammunition in their possession. We agree with the Attorney General's office that hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition are purchased each year by consumers in California. A conservative estimate would be that law enforcement would confiscate at least 500 million rounds of non-serialized ammunition from law-abiding Californians, but not a single cartridge from a criminal."

[AZ_Cowboy]

even better....lets defeat this crap before it takes affect.

Hear, hear!

[45Auto]

I haven't read the text of this bill but if it passes and is signed by Arnold, no manufacturer of bullets or brass will be able to legally sell their unmarked products in California. Just like the currrent ban on so-called hicap magazines. While the latter are freely available in all but a few states, they cannot be imported or sold on the legal retail market in the states which ban them. This is a real can of worms; if passed I think its a good bet that Arnold will veto. And it is a good bet this bill will be amended to exempt law enforcement.

[Travis McGee]

BANG!

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Actually, they do have a clue what they're doing. It's called, if you can't ban it, make it so expensive no one can or will want to use it. They've been trying this trick for a while.

[yarddog]

Well I am glad I don't live in California. Unfortunately, if it passes there, it will probably spread.

[45Auto]

Aas long as there are lead wheel weights, there will be "unregistered" bullets.

[Ancesthntr]

When I lived in NJ under Florio's "assault weapon" ban, I proudly purchased 20- and 30-round mags at PA gun shows and brought them back home. If I lived in CA, I'd refuse to turn in any unregistered bullets (or loaded ammo containing such bullets), and I'd make it a point to go outside of the state to buy more of them.

Gunowners should have massive protests, with each one bringing a 50-round box of ammo with them. F'em - if they want to enforce the law, let them throw a million people in jail.

Fortunately, I live in TX now. Somehow or other, I just don't see anything gun-related being banned here, not with 30 million + guns in the state. But having lived in an oppressive socialist dictatorship once (the PRNJ), I have great sympathy for gunowners in CA.

[Badray]

Bump

[yarddog]

I'm with you. Unfortunately they will pick us off one at a time and most gun owners will complain about it but then say those "radicals" got what they deserved for breaking the law.

Never even caring that the "law" is illegal to start with. It not only violates the bill of rights, but the rights of all free men.

[Arkie2]

Barret, maker of the .50 cal outlawed in California will not perform any maintenance or repair on its products for any California police dept.

[RipSawyer]

"It would cost nothing to file off the number if I was going to use the round in a killing. Sheeesh!"

Have these idiots ever heard of handloading? Imagine the price an enterprising hoodlum could get for handloaded cartridges with handmade bullets! A simple bullet mold and some lead and a ladle to melt it in are all you need to make bullets and the handloading equipment and powder, caps etc. are readily available.

[G Larry]

These clowns will tell ANY LIE to stop the availability of handguns or the ammo.

Perhaps we should sue because of the unfair impact on the poor's ability to defend themselves.

Then we could have a State subsidised ammo program, for the underpriviliged!

[paul51]

Facts don't matter to the grabbers and those ignorant enough to listen to what they say

[paul51]

It's not about cost. It's even worse. The manufactures will simply cease shipping to Ca. That's what the grabbers really want.

[river rat]

It's times like this, that convinces me I'm a genius...

I've smelled this coming for years..
I have EVERYTHING I can imagine needing for the rest of my life --- to reload my own.

My reloading bench is COMPLETE for all 6 calibers I own and shoot --- plus my shotgun loads.. In addition to all the presses, scales, powder dispensers, die sets -- I've already stockpiles all the brass, primers, powder, bullets, lub, tumble media, etc., etc., etc.........

Of course there is no shortage of cleaning materials and rods, rests, chrony, scopes, etc, etc.....

Yep -- I'm okay....
My one regret - was that I was about 2 months late in placing my order for a single shot Barrett .50 cal...
Gov, Sperminator was responsible for me not being able to keep a promise to my favorite Grandson.

Here in Kalifornicate -- you can't be too careful..

Arm thy selves Neighbors! While you can.......

John

[Myrddin]

Exactly as I surmised. A forced confiscation of unserialized ammo and abandonment of the market because it isn't cost effective to manufacture. Disarmament without a shot...unless Californians grow some serious cajones.

[in the Arena]

BTTT...