SAAMI weighs in on ammunition serial numbering scheme

SAAMI ^ | 4/26/05 | SAAMI

[BCR #226]

FYI and spread it around to all the sites you guys go on... we need to get the word out.

Mike

[Kretek]

SAAMI offered to take members of the Legislature, including Sen. Dunn, and the Attorney General's office, on a tour of an ammunition manufacturing plant. Regrettably, neither Sen. Dunn, nor the Attorney General's office availed themselves of this opportunity to learn first-hand why this proposal is infeasible.

In other words, "Don't confuse Sen. Dunn or the AG with the facts; they've got their minds made up."

The cost of ammunition would increase from pennies now to several dollars per cartridge. It is sheer, uninformed fantasy to suggest that costs would only increase by half a cent.

That is, of course, the unspoken but true aim of that serialisation requirment; if they can't ban ammunition de jure, they'll make it so expensive as to have a de facto ban.

[BCR #226]

Ping...

[EagleUSA]

I heard about this ridiculous leftist scheme to put more pressure on gun owners. What these power-and-control freaks will come up with next. They are so blinded by their objective of disarming free Americans, they have no clue about the how,why,cost,impact, etc.

SOCIALIST MORONS!!!

[G.Mason]

Serialize this!

[Arkie2]

I've been reading about this bill. What are it's chances of passage?

[.38sw]

Chances of passage are very good. The legislature is dominated by leftists who haven't met a gun (or ammunition) control bill they didn't love. It's already passed out of one committee, and will be heard in the appropriations committee. It will likely pass. I'd have to look it up to see exactly what the status is today, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it passes. Now, the question is, will Arnold sign it? He signed the bill last year banning .50 BMG rifles, but vetoed a bill tacking on a per round tax on ammunition.

[Arkie2]

I hope it fails because Kalifornia shows the way for the leftists in the other states and we could expect to see this nonsense spread. Is the NRA involved in this fight?

[muir_redwoods]

It would cost nothing to file off the number if I was going to use the round in a killing. Sheeesh!

[.38sw]

I don't know how involved they are. I got an alert in my email, but other than that, I don't know what they're doing.

[joesnuffy]

Right...and everyone who makes their own bullets is going to have to laser engrave them..

Not to mention they deform upon impact...and every bullet has to have its own serial number?

How many zillions of bullets will be made this month?...
and what about foreign bullets...we will refuse to allow anyone to import them..

This is simply more back door gun grabbing by the commies
who hate America and want to disarm honest citizens
in order that there will be no one to resist criminals
of either type..(sanctioned and unsanctioned)

imo

[.38sw]

Well, yeah, but the intent is not to actually help with solving crimes, the intent is to make it more expensive and difficult for law-abiding citizens to own guns.

[556x45]

Instead manufacturers would have no alternative but to abandon the California market.

I suspect this is exactly what the AG is hoping for. The state, of course, would be exempt from the law so police and the privileged would be uneffected. Even if the gun lobby does sue the state over this the state could keep it in court for years. There's NO up side to this situation even for those who would want to outlaw guns. They'll be caught in the societal degradation thats certain to follow.

[muir_redwoods]

"Well, yeah, but the intent is not to actually help with solving crimes, the intent is to make it more expensive and difficult for law-abiding citizens to own guns."

Why on earth do they continue to piss-off the people who are already armed? Not good tactics

[CarmichaelPatriot]

If the firearms and ammunition manufacturers had any guts, they'd abandon the California market now. If all the manufacturers agreed not to sell to any California based enterprise, including local police, sherrifs, CHP, National Gaurd organizations, perhaps the outcry from these groups would be enough to shut up the AG.

[Disambiguator]

Instead manufacturers would have no alternative but to abandon the California market.

I'm sure that no black market would spring up to fulfill the demand for ammo.

/sarcasm

[.38sw]

Why on earth do they continue to piss-off the people who are already armed?

That's the good cause reason that state senator Don Pistol Pakin' Perata gives on his application for his concealed carry permit. He believes that he is in danger by crazed gun-owners due to his support for gun control measures. He has one of the very few ccw permits in Alameda county.

[DuncanWaring]

If the firearms and ammunition manufacturers had any guts, they'd abandon the California market now.

That's what Ronnie Barret did.

[AZ_Cowboy]

It looks as if I ought to buy a reloading kit early for Father's Day, huh.

Consider the word spread.

[AZ_Cowboy]

I wrote Mr. Barrett personally on the matter. It was outrageous that the Sheriff out there (Was it L.A.?) would acquire one of his guns solely to frighten the masses and push for gun control with it. It has always been (and will always remain) the shooter, not the equipment, who makes the shot count.

Barrett Rifles