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John Kerry On Iraq: More Dangerous Than The Insurgents
http://www.chattanoogan.com ^ | 6/30/05 | David W. Moon

Posted on 07/01/2005 5:58:18 AM PDT by bitt

Tuesday, Sen. John F. Kerry (D) Massachusetts demonstrated in the OP/ED Pages of the New York Times in a piece “The Speech the President Should Give” one reason he stills sits at the same Senate desk he’s held down since 1984. Mr. Kerry’s remarks seem a grab bag of initiatives untried by the Bush administration in Iraq for one giant reason: They will not work. With so many initiatives, Mr. Kerry must be duck hunting again with his scatter gun.

Where to begin breaking down his missive is the least troubling question presented. Mr. Kerry calls for a U.N. Multinational Force to provide Iraq border integrity. U.N. Resolution 1546 ensured Iraqi Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity along with the right of the Iraqi Government to ask the U.N. Mandated Multinational force set out in 1546 to leave Iraq at the their behest. In short to answer Mr. Kerry, a construct exists for all member nations who would join the U.N. Multinational Force in Iraq.

If Mr. Kerry were to bolster his work, he might have included language placing Syria and Iran on notice for violations of Iraq's borders in blatant disregard to Resolution 1546. Standing up, stanching the flow of terrorists in Iraq makes perfect sense considering the growing number of foreign terrorists our service people fight in Iraq.

With the foreign fighters streaming into Iraq to fight along side indigenous Sunni Nationalists and discarded Baathists, Mr. Kerry, grinds the old saw that the Bush administration “destroyed the Iraqi Army through de-Baathification.” The best of the Iraqi Army fled before the might of the American military, and the best were Baathists. When we did reach for a Baathist General, Jasim Mohamed Saleh, his retread Baathist troops failed to quell Fallujah last year. The Baathist retread "General” did exactly nothing to stop the violence perpetrated by Baathists and Jihadists. The U.S. finally was forced to send in the Marines house to house.

Saddam’s Iraqi Army was never a force to be counted upon, and what would the human rights and fighting record be today if it were still in place? Would the soldiers trust the old Army as they do the new? The answers here are self evident, but to open some eyes, 77% of Iraqi Soldiers have confidence in the New Iraqi Army.

Mr. Kerry has issues with the training schedule and by innuendo the performance of the New Iraqi Army. U.S. Army Doctrine is “Train to Standard, not to Time.” The standard is a fighting force that can beat the insurgency over time while respecting human rights of terrorists and citizens alike. Disciplined soldiers are far less likely to commit atrocities, while unit cohesion means soldiers can depend upon one another and their officers. Chain of command is paramount when fighting Para-military forces or straight up force on force. Mr. Kerry relies upon personal experience with his accelerated training for Vietnam, but Senator, your Yale degree put you at the head of the class.

The New York Times piece promotes independent Militias to be called upon as National Guard formations. Didn’t the U.S. and Iraqi Armies fight Muqtada al-Sadr’s Militia in Najaf, Karballah and Sadr City last year? Do Militias have the same chain of command and human rights attributes of the New Iraqi Army? No, and these formations are wielded by charismatic leaders that must be dealt with politically if their forces are used by the state. Al-Sadr was an archetype charismatic leader causing political and military problems with his Militia. The U.S. and Iraqi Governments need no more of this type threat to stability.

Militia as National Guard is a wretched idea bound to cause innumerable problems politically and militarily if implemented. Thomas Friedman deserves the blame here for his New York Times column last week calling for just this type of “solution” to the security problem. When political leaders or columnists with no intellectual grounding play soldier, it’s best to let the pros handle the hard questions. In this case, the pros are Central Command and the Department of Defense.

The political front in Iraq can always use a kick in the tires. Ayatollah al-Sistani gave the Sunnis a leg up on the Constitutional front this week. The Ayatollah mediates a deal where representation will be provincial based instead of the National Slate handed down by the United Nations for the last election. This new framework ensures a certain amount of seats for the Sunnis no matter their turnout. The Kurds, too, are sure to benefit.

For those who long for something other than the suicide car bombings and IED attacks saturating the media these days, news of progress in Iraq is available at Central Command’s Web Site http://www.centcom.mil/. News such as Operation Squeeze Play where over 400 terrorists where rounded up by three battalions of the 10th Mountain Division and four brigades of the Iraqi Army in Southern Iraq, or schools, water treatment plants, police stations and other infrastructure being built by Iraqis for Iraqis, while the terrorists build what? This is not to say the security situation in Iraq is near quelled, but as Mr. Bush said Tuesday night, “progress is being made.”

David W. Moon TNcolmoon2@aol.com


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1 posted on 07/01/2005 5:58:20 AM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

He is just like a goose, always crapping.


2 posted on 07/01/2005 6:01:09 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: bitt
John Kerry On Iraq: More Dangerous Than The Insurgents

John Kerry? Could be, he and his appeaser buddies on the left do work against the war effort on a daily basis.
3 posted on 07/01/2005 6:03:29 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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To: bitt
"...U.N. Resolution 1546 ensured Iraqi Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity along with the right of the Iraqi Government to ask the U.N. Mandated Multinational force set out in 1546 to leave Iraq at the their behest. In short to answer Mr. Kerry, a construct exists for all member nations who would join the U.N. Multinational Force in Iraq..."

Does not, in raising this issue, Kerry join with Bush?

4 posted on 07/01/2005 6:04:19 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: bitt

Hasn't his 15 minutes expired already?


5 posted on 07/01/2005 6:05:07 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: bitt

I have an idea:

Lets send Kerry over to lead the insergents, then we'll be able to wipe them all out.


6 posted on 07/01/2005 6:08:55 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: bitt

Is he the same john kerry that served in vietnam?


7 posted on 07/01/2005 6:15:02 AM PDT by ampat
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To: bitt

I tend to disregard warnings of danger that come from men who inflicted their own wounds in order to avoid combat.

Actually, Senator, I would feel safer in a Baghdad patrolled by US troops than I would on the "other" side of the Charles River.


8 posted on 07/01/2005 6:16:50 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection...)
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To: bitt

Read my tagline it says it all.


9 posted on 07/01/2005 6:18:29 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight them in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Which do you prefer?)
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To: bitt

Seagull...

(1) Flaps wings and makes a lot of noise.

(2) Craps all over everything.

(3) Goes away.

JF'nK...

(1) and (2), but will not go away.


10 posted on 07/01/2005 6:19:57 AM PDT by CPOSharky (You are born cold, wet, and hungry. Things get worse, then you die.)
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To: bitt

Dear John, STFU!


11 posted on 07/01/2005 6:23:26 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; JLO; gidget7; nopardons; Kenny Bunk; GianniV; ...

'If Mr. Kerry were to bolster his work, he might have included language placing Syria and Iran on notice for violations of Iraq's borders in blatant disregard to Resolution 1546. Standing up, stanching the flow of terrorists in Iraq makes perfect sense considering the growing number of foreign terrorists our service people fight in Iraq. '

As we all agree, if sKerry and his boy-os stopped obstructing the prosecution of this war, our treasure and our military would be more properly used and the WOT would be more fearful to other rogue nations...


12 posted on 07/01/2005 6:38:22 AM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: bitt

The war in Iraq and Afghanistan are basically PSI-OP wars. John Kerry is on the enemies side arguing against his president (whether he believes Bush is the President or not).


13 posted on 07/01/2005 6:46:00 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 07/01/2005 6:51:36 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bitt
One only had to look at his record to see that Kerry was a shallow, one-dimensional man. He hardly practiced law... never mind, hold a job in the private sector.

He's a dour, unimaginative public-employee of the worst kind and he comes from a VERY undemanding state. A man who's pro-union in his own state... but walks through picket lines in another.

That the Democrat Party actually nominated both Kerry and Dukakis(the 1982, MA 'dream-team') as presidential candidates from the socialist cesspool of MA tells volumes!

15 posted on 07/01/2005 7:06:25 AM PDT by johnny7 (How often does a '47 Rodham require servicing?)
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To: bitt; All

Spineless US Senate would rather protect Hanoi Kerry
than deal with the anti war crowd.

Anyone who thinks Hanoi Kerry isn't behind the anti war crowd needs to get a clue.

It's time to support our troops and ignore the jelly fish in the US Senate!

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS

Distribute these url's!

Links to Anti Kerry sites
212 LINKS
News reports,
Viper's Vietnam Veterans Page

http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html


EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!

http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html

Full details on these url's!

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

Did you see this...?
(The 'Kerry's Promise Counter')
http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=6628
Polipundit even tells you how to install it on your own page!

Swift Boat Veteran For Truth John O'Neill Comments on Kerry's 180 'Release'
6/7/05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418592/posts

John Kerry was dishonorably dismissed from the Navy:
(statement from lawyers there at the time)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1406760/posts

Why does Hanoi Kerry continue to refuse to sign
form SF 180 and release his military records to the public?
Sam Sewell 09 June 2005

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article4388.html


16 posted on 07/01/2005 7:46:57 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Do you like aqaruims? Then visit the jelly fish in the US Senate when in DC!)
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To: bitt

My tagline will have to be amended, I guess. This john has so much crap that one flush didn't get it all.


17 posted on 07/01/2005 7:54:13 AM PDT by retiredcpo (2 johns - flushed)
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To: bitt
John Kerry Has Bush's Number -- Satire By Liberal Larry


Along with windsurfing, bicycling, and sucking the morale out of our armed forces like an industrial vac, John Kerry has the uncanny ability to predict the content of Bush's speeches and rebut them in advance. There was little point in me watching Bush spew his jingoist propaganda last night, for Big John had it all covered. He knew that Bush would defy 200 years of presidential tradition and attempt to rally the nation with "Happy Talk" in a time of war. He knew that Bush would try to make us have faith in our country and pride in the troops, despite everything democrats have taught us. And he knew he had to do something about it.

Fearful of coming off like a sore loser, yet he finding himself unable to tolerate Bush's litany of lies, he took pen in hand to criticize Bush's poorly planned war. A Vietnam war hero thrice wounded in combat, he courageously expressed his dissatisfaction with a war he himself supported before he was against it, and that he boldly sort of supports now.

The New York Times was, of course, hesitant to risk their reputation of objectivity by publishing a partisan hit piece. But after going over Kerry's article with a fine-toothed comb and triple-checking all the facts, they threw caution to the wind and printed the article as a service to the American People.

Ever the optimist, Kerry predicted a gloomy outcome for the War in Iraq, unless Bush followed some key advice. Gleaned from previous Bush speeches and policy already in effect, Kerry's bold new ideas are perhaps our best chance to end the Quagmire in Iraq:

1. Bush must announce that the U.S. will not remain in Iraq permanently.

2. The Iraqis must be encouraged to form their own government and hold elections.

3. The Iraqis must be trained to defend themselves.

4. Saddam must be captured and held for trial.

Most importantly, a plan must be set for the withdrawal of our troops and presented to democrats in Congress or, cutting out the middle man, given directly to Al Zarqawi so he can get a jump on the killing fields when we depart.

Oh, America! How wrong you were to send such a brilliant mind back to Boston! What fools you were to toss this bright beacon of hope away like a handful of someone else's war medals! I weep for you, America, for you've missed the John Kerry swift boat of love!

This satire was used with the permission of BlameBush!

(hat tip, John Hawkins, http://rightwingnews.com)
18 posted on 07/01/2005 10:47:14 AM PDT by OESY
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Politicians are a reflection of morals and ideas of the people who elect them. Other wise why would they be there. The people of Mass. are no better morally and idealy than the man they elected, Hanoi jfnk and the Olympic swimmer.


19 posted on 07/01/2005 11:55:04 AM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: OESY

#18 is too good to leave inside this post...can we post it by itself, please? then ping me!


20 posted on 07/01/2005 3:32:24 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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