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Democrats Subvert War Intelligence (Remember "The Treason Memo"?)
Insight On The News ^ | J. Michael Waller | Dec. 22, 2003

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:45:23 PM PDT by Sam Hill

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To: Enchante

"I'm sure this loathsome memo grew out of the same swamp that Joe Wilson and the Senate Democratic Policy Committee were wallowing in....."

I always thought the "memo" had a Hillry flare about it, considering she cut her political teeth on that subcommittee trying to figure out how to impeach Nixon.


21 posted on 07/30/2005 6:30:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Sam Hill

Good job!


22 posted on 07/30/2005 6:35:06 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Sam Hill

Bookmarked


23 posted on 07/30/2005 6:36:05 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Sam Hill
In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter foot-dragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman; we have independently submitted written questions to DoD [Department of Defense]; and we are preparing further independent requests for information. Memo comes out at the beginning of November. Wonder when it was written?
24 posted on 07/30/2005 6:40:21 PM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: Sam Hill

Bush has let a lot bad things the RATS have done slide by. My guess is the RATS (Clinton's) are holding them hostage , Bubba treatened to take the whole government down if he got impeached. The country will not survive if that's the case, it is time to call their bluff and bury them right along with the whole mess.


25 posted on 07/30/2005 6:46:47 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: Sam Hill
Take a look at this link.

Here

26 posted on 07/30/2005 6:58:47 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Sam Hill

FReepers on the thread also bring up Wilson.


27 posted on 07/30/2005 7:02:05 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Bump....the last I heard about this memo, was a response I received from Senator Shelby to my question to him on CSPAN Morning Journal (way back when)....The memo had been referred to the ethics committee. Where did it go from there? Perhaps indeed this is part of Fitzgerald's investigation...


28 posted on 07/30/2005 7:20:31 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Sam Hill; Fedora

What would be crucial info to obtain - would probably require not only many subpoenas but also FBI raids to seize documents and emails, etc. - is what kinds of coordination have gone on behind the scenes between 'Rats on the Hill, MSM outlets such as NY Times and 60 Minutes, etc., and the various unsavory characters like Joe Wilson, Bill Burkett, Richard Clarke, et al who tried to have a campaign of scandals leading up to the 2004 election. There are a variety of crimes involved, if only the GJ looking at Plame-gate would cast their net wider. This outrageous memo is just one (important) piece in the much larger picture, which you are doing much to illuminate!

P.S. Found this interesting piece (link below) about how 60 Minutes bumped a story they had prepared on the forged documents re: Niger uranium to air their pathetic "Rathergate" piece with the forged TANG documents!!! They never did run the one on the Niger uranium forgeries - guess once they got embroiled in Rathergate they lost their appetite for talking about forged documents! Has anyone looked at whether there could be any connection(s) between the origins of both sets of forgeries??? There has been talk that the Niger uranium forgeries originated in the USA and were released in Italy to put them into 'circulation' - could there be any relation between TWO sets of forgeries (Niger and TANG) designed to harm the Bush 2004 campaign???

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/092504I.shtml


29 posted on 07/30/2005 7:31:11 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Laverne
I haven't heard a thing about the memo till now. Someone buried it deep.

I hope Fitzgerald has it on his radar.

30 posted on 07/30/2005 7:35:03 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Enchante

Good story, thanks for the link. Odd, two different sets of forged papers came about around the same time. There has to be a way of pinning down there original dates. Some of the same players in both forgeries.


31 posted on 07/30/2005 7:41:43 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; Sam Hill; Fedora; ravingnutter; piasa; STARWISE; nuffsenuff; Mad Mammoth; nopardons
Rockefeller jumped on the matter of the forged documents and Niger uranium as early as MARCH 21, 2003 (just as the Iraq War was getting underway!). HAD JOE WILSON ALREADY PREPPED HIM IN MARCH 2003????? See quote from letter below.... He was being prepped by someone within just weeks after the Bush SOU address (late January). This suggests that the 'Rats were prepared to make hay about the forgeries from early on, before they even knew how the war would turn out, how many WMDs would be found, etc.(remember that in March 2003 virtually everyone including Joe Wilson expected that Saddam had plenty of chem and probably bio weapons and facilities......)--- so they were ready to hang their assault on the Bush administration on the Niger forgery issue and the "16 words" in the SOU at that point!!! That could be highly significant in that few people in March 2003 would have taken the "16 words" seriously at all - why were the 'Rats so ready to hype the forged documents before the war had even been fought??????? Seems like a plan to me.....

March 21, 2003: Senator John D. Rockefeller IV (D. WVa) writes FBI Director Robert Mueller asking for an investigation of the Niger letters. "There is a possibility," Rockefeller says, "that the fabrication of these [Niger] documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq." http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/072905L.shtml [truthout seems to be a loony left website but does have some useful info amidst all the garbage]
32 posted on 07/30/2005 7:51:30 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Sam Hill

bttt.


33 posted on 07/30/2005 8:00:47 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Sam Hill

A great thread and post, Sam Hill. And a timely reminder.


34 posted on 07/30/2005 8:09:48 PM PDT by Peach
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What newspaper seemed to push this Rockefeller/memo story very hard at the time?


35 posted on 07/30/2005 8:15:33 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

There were articles on the memo, probably in all the papers; however, the articles hardly mentioned the contents of the memo. If memory serves me correctly, most of the media outlets discussed this only in terms of the democrat spin -- the republican were guilty of "stealing" the memo. I think the WSJ actually printed an article about the contents of the memo.


36 posted on 07/30/2005 8:20:40 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Laverne
Thank you.

I remember the uproar over the memo being leaked...but not it's contents. I thought that was extremely odd. The contents wasn't deemed important, only who leaked it was what the dims were screaming about.

37 posted on 07/30/2005 8:24:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: leadpenny

I nominate Mellon to be drawn and quartered and one second the nomination?


38 posted on 07/30/2005 8:33:36 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: Sam Hill

bttt


39 posted on 07/30/2005 8:33:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Sam Hill

Just remember, if REPUBLICANS had written that memo, it would have made 41 straight days above the fold on the front cover of the NY Times.

...But since DEMOCRATS wrote that piece of garbage, the news media won't even tell you the names of the ones who authored said memo.

Not even on Page C 27.

40 posted on 07/30/2005 8:34:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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