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1 posted on 08/10/2005 3:16:45 PM PDT by forty_years
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What's the cure for a has-been band about to release a subpar album? Why a "controversial song" of course.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 3:21:13 PM PDT by silent_jonny
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The last Stones album I enjoyed was "Through the Past Darkly", and I still have it in my collection. It might be worth something, if it wasn't so scratched and beat up.

I am highly annoyed that this group of grumpy old men are going to be doing the song for football this season. I'll still watch football, though.


3 posted on 08/10/2005 3:22:08 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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BTTT


4 posted on 08/10/2005 3:25:49 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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The Verve and The Rolling Stones : Truly Bittersweet
The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?

"It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum.

http://www.superswell.com/samplelaw/horror.html


5 posted on 08/10/2005 3:27:56 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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6 posted on 08/10/2005 3:29:46 PM PDT by rickmichaels (One Nation, Under God...)
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This is a no brainer. If you want to listen to and buy music in which most of the artists are patriotic and conservative and not feel bad about where your money is going, you gotta switch to Country.
7 posted on 08/10/2005 3:29:52 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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two words: senile dementia


10 posted on 08/10/2005 3:33:33 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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Even more proof the Beatles were superior. They knew when to quit.


12 posted on 08/10/2005 3:45:37 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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"The Rolling Stones’ music has been downright awful since Tattoo You " Well hell...the truth be known, their last good album was Exile on Main Street in the early 70's...you know, just before their 'Glitter' then 'Disco' periods...truly awful. BUT. Before that they were FANTASTIC...and when you go to one of their shows.....(I have seen 3, in '69, '89, and '99) they were great....and the reason was that they played for the most part, all their GOOD songs...They put on a great show....and I could give a rats ass as to their politics when I am rocking out to songs from....A) their real early period in the early/mid 60's B) songs from Satanic Majesties Request, Let it Bleed, Gimme Shelter, and Exile.. and C) their crowning achievment Beggars Banquet. I also have a smattering of their greatest hits and live works... AND they are F*ckin' great..... Now please excuse my exuberence.....I do disagree with their politics but who cares......ROCK ON
13 posted on 08/10/2005 3:46:51 PM PDT by Vaquero (an armed society is a polite society (Heinlein).)
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"You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of s---,"

You call yourself a singer, I call you a dipsh!t/You call yourself an artist, well I think you're full of yourself."

Another drunken old granny who thinks his vapid opinion means something to someone beside himself.

By the way, Mick, you might want to consider something you said 30 years ago:

"I can't see myself strutting around on stage singing 'I can't get no ... satisfaction' when I'm 50."

As Neil Young once said, "Better to burn out than to simply fade away."

Fade away, Mick. You're yesterday.

17 posted on 08/10/2005 3:54:59 PM PDT by IronJack
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Of all the names mentioned in the article, Neil Young is probably the most conservative and the author calls him a "commie."


18 posted on 08/10/2005 3:57:34 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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I'm leaving to practice with my cover band in about an hour and were supposed to start rehearsing a Rolling Stones medley tonight.

F*** that, now. I don't feel like doing anything that will end up promoting these clowns. There's no shortage of music from other groups to play.


21 posted on 08/10/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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Need a picture of the Rolling Stones? Look up "overrated" in the dictionary.


22 posted on 08/10/2005 4:08:37 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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I still blame Jagger, et al, for Brian Jones' death, even thoughit was ruled an accident.


23 posted on 08/10/2005 4:10:04 PM PDT by Solamente
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The Stones were a pretty good ban, taken in the context of the times, but they were never great [musically]. And it's been over 30 years since they did anything worth turning on a radio for.

I'm an old blues/rocker from the 60's, couldn't get no satisfaction in high school /grin. And frankly, I never have given a crap about making rock political. Musicians ain't rocket scientists, duh. Mick Jagger? Why would anyone care what he thinks?


24 posted on 08/10/2005 4:16:39 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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Mick Jagger was a brilliant businessman. Not only did I attend The Stones' concerts in CA -- but I discovered The Stones BEFORE The Beatles. Whoever is making the business decisions for the group now -- is making a mistake. Especially in assuming on the liberal-left bought their albums all these past years. Oh well.

bump..bump..bump And another one bites the dust...bump

25 posted on 08/10/2005 4:24:26 PM PDT by Alia (Is Cindy Sheehan into Metaphysic Abortions?)
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Hopefully AC/DC will come out with a new album. Not only are they better than the Stones but they are pro-Republican. They need to make another anti-Big Government song like their "Who Made Who"


27 posted on 08/10/2005 4:31:47 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalNewsGroups-PC.html)
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This, from the mother of his 7th child who wants $35K per month in child support:

"The problem is that people think a single mother only has one option, that of abortion," Morad told Caras magazine in the same interview last year, "and whoever doesn't choose that option is seen as opportunistic."

28 posted on 08/10/2005 4:39:52 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Let not your heart be troubled.......)
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I surprised at thier stance against the neocons. In Sympathy fpr the Devil they lay at Satans feet the sins of the Communists and Nazis. Suppose the old buggers just don't get that the world has changed.


30 posted on 08/10/2005 4:46:57 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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You have to wonder if these clowns know that it's an anti-Semitic code word.


34 posted on 08/10/2005 5:05:37 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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