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Passenger Plane Carrying 160 People Crashes in Venezuela
Tge New York Times ^ | August 16, 2005 | BRIAN ELLSWORTH and JUAN FORERO

Posted on 08/16/2005 12:13:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

CARACAS, Venezuela, Aug. 16 -- An airliner carrying 160 passengers and crew members crashed into a mountain in northern Venezuela early today after reporting engine trouble, killing all aboard, aviation authorities said.

The plane, an MD-82 made by McDonnell Douglas and operated by West Caribbean Airways of Colombia, was carrying French vacationers to Martinique from Panama when the pilots reported engine problems to Venezuelan air-traffic controllers at 3:07 a.m., the authorities in Venezuela said. Ten minutes later, the controllers lost radio contact.

The plane crashed in the Sierra de Perija mountain range just inside Venezuela's rugged northwestern border with Colombia, Venezuela's interior minister, Jesse Chacon, said. The remains of the plane were spread across a wide swath not far from the town of Machiques, which is about 90 miles southwest of Maracaibo, Venezuela's second-largest city.

West Caribbean Flight 708 first reported problems to controllers at Maiquetía Símon Bolivar International Airport outside Caracas, according to Francisco Paz, president of the country's aeronautical authority, the National Civil Aviation Institute.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: aviation; boeing; crash; mcdonnelldouglas; md80; md82; planecrash; venezuela; westcaribbeanair
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There was an earlier thread based on an ABC story announcing the crash. This is a later and more thorough story.
1 posted on 08/16/2005 12:13:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative; MindBender26
Another Airliner Crash -- Venezuela This Time. 152 On Board – Details To Follow
ABC / reporting AP | AP


Posted on 08/16/2005 6:41:08 AM CDT by MindBender26

2 posted on 08/16/2005 12:15:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

3 posted on 08/16/2005 12:17:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Let the conspiracy theories begin and unroll the tin foil!
4 posted on 08/16/2005 12:20:14 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I have not read the stories about this crash. Any similarities to the Athens crash?


5 posted on 08/16/2005 12:20:17 PM PDT by devane617
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I have not read the stories about this crash. Any similarities to the Athens crash?

Other than the fact that the planes were different aircraft types manufactured by different manufacturers and had different problems, who knows? I'd rather doubt it.

6 posted on 08/16/2005 12:23:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: devane617

Yes. In both cases an airplane crashed.


7 posted on 08/16/2005 12:23:38 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: devane617

1: Airplanes
2: They crashed
3: Both were flown by men.
4: Both men had eaten rice within the last 14 days.

... so, as you can plainly see, it's obviously a conspiracy involving two Chinese terrorists named Liu.


8 posted on 08/16/2005 12:24:17 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: COEXERJ145
"Let the conspiracy theories begin and unroll the tin foil!"

Undoubtably the airline mechanics were Walmart shoppers and used inferior parts made by the Chicoms who are plotting to take over the world as soon as the Mooselimbs are through getting their kicks.



9 posted on 08/16/2005 12:24:56 PM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Paleo Conservative
The remains of the plane were spread across a wide swath

No style points.

10 posted on 08/16/2005 12:39:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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Phew! Good thing I was getting busy with Madonna and missed my flight!
11 posted on 08/16/2005 12:45:46 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: MindBender26; Paleo Conservative; Arkie2

Fron the responses I received I guess my question was offbase a bit. Hmmm...


12 posted on 08/16/2005 12:51:04 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Arkie2

In the eternal battle between the ground and aircraft. The ground has yet to lose.


13 posted on 08/16/2005 12:53:48 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Solamente

I have nothing but sympathy for Madonna's injury. Ribs are no fun. What is her name these days, by the way? If she is trying to run the Kabala with her old name she probably isn't having a lot of success.


14 posted on 08/16/2005 12:54:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: TXBSAFH

The best the plane can do is break even. No pun intended.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 1:04:21 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Arkie2

But to many break often.


16 posted on 08/16/2005 1:11:59 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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Following is an excerpt from a press report found on an aviation website with two possible and completely tinfoil hat free explanations. It's a great aviation website as most who post there are related in some way to aviation.

Peter Goelz, former managing director of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, said investigators would most likely look for evidence of fuel contamination.



"It's not unusual to lose one engine. It is unusual to lose both," Goelz said. "One of the first things you always look at is fuel contamination."

Goelz said he understood that both engines had recently had work done on them to suppress noise. Within the last few weeks, he said, hush kits _ noise-suppression devices _ were supplied to the engines.

The United States sent four investigators to Venezuela to help.


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17 posted on 08/16/2005 1:19:06 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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"Within the last few weeks, he said, hush kits _ noise-suppression devices _ were supplied to the engines."

Apparently, they failed

18 posted on 08/16/2005 1:29:11 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Was that sarcasm? Otherwise there's no need to suppose anything as fuel contamination was also mentioned as a possible cause.


19 posted on 08/16/2005 1:32:12 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

VENS Riechstag it will end up being americans who shot it down. Watch.


20 posted on 08/16/2005 2:17:20 PM PDT by partyrepub
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