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Zhirinovsky: "Yushchenko is worse than Hitler," his wife is "Banderian’s daughter"...
ForUm ^ | 23 August 2005 | ForUm

Posted on 08/28/2005 11:55:00 AM PDT by Mazepa

23 August

Scandal - Zhirinovsky: "Yushchenko is worse than Hitler," his wife is "Banderian’s daughter" and all Ukrainians will be exiled to Siberia

Lvovskaya Gazeta reports that Vladimir Zhirinovsky the leader of Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) made Anti-Ukrainian speech at the picket being held by his party before the Embassies of Georgia, Ukraine and Israel in Moscow.

Zhirinovsky menaced Ukraine with Apocalypses because of "Viktor Yushchenko is worse than Hitler," who was more honest than Ukrainian President and because of "his wife is the daughter of Banderian who eloped to America.

Zhirinovsky stated also that Hitler "opened Russian schools and churches," and Yushchenko "closed Russian Orthodox churches."

He strongly recommended Ukrainian politicians "not to forget Russia language because they will need it to answer the questions of Russian investigators in Lubyanka."

"We will exile all of you in Siberia, you will not be shot because Ukrainians will be used as frozen museum pieces," threatened Liberal-Democrat.

Zhirinovsky mentioned that "to study Ukrainian for Russians living in Ukraine is a flout; it does not happened in any country all over the world." Ukraine is "a part of Russian Empire. Lvov will be a capital of small Ukrainian state and let them develop their culture if any."

He warns that "all Russians of the Earth will come back to Moscow." "You have become insolent here in Ukraine, Yushchenko will be punished, it has influenced his health condition already, it was done by Ukrainian patriots," stated Zhirinovsky.

The newspaper also mentions that "Zhirinovsky is one of the ten high officials of Russian that is why it may be proposed that his voice is the voice of official Russian power."

LDPR picketers were guarded by two tens of policemen. All journalists had to pass in their Ida and the foreign ones - accreditation cards.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: hitlerinsult; morethorazineplease; russia; ukraine; yushchenko; zhirinovsky
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To: jb6
But some people point at that idiot priest mentioned by you as an evidence, that there is stil strong anti-semitism in Poland.

But this is not the point, I meant something different.
I just remember your statements about Ukrainian UNA-UNSO, or RusIvans's about Polish skinheads - that are supposed to be the symptom of allegedly common Russophobic sentiments in Ukraine or Poland. So - if those morons are supposed to be taken seriously - so whay are treating Zhirinovsky only as an idiot, not worth any attention?
21 posted on 08/29/2005 10:41:46 AM PDT by lizol
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To: Mazepa; All; jb6; GarySpFc; sergey1973; Lukasz; lizol; A. Pole



‘I’m about to hit something really hard; Ziernikowski is a moron ; of in fore this man needs to take a chill pill; of in fore; what is wrong with this world? They compare everything to Hitler for crying out loud; either he is on drugs or a big truck have run over his rear end. If people only understand how evil Hitler and Stalin was; this is really make me upset. “


22 posted on 08/29/2005 10:46:35 AM PDT by anonymoussierra
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To: anonymoussierra

All it does is cheapen the suffering of the victims of the Hitlers and Stalins of the world. Here in the US, Hitler/Nazi comparisons get thrown around very often but besides the skinheads/neo-nazis, the only ones that trully deserve that label are the feminists or rather the feminazis. ;P


23 posted on 08/29/2005 11:23:02 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: lizol

Difference is, besides the fact this guy is an idiot, Una-Unso claims to have partaken in aiding the Islamics in Chechnya, its leadership has been sent to jail and the first politician to meet them after their release was guess who? Yup, Tymoshenko.


24 posted on 08/29/2005 11:24:34 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6
OK. And Zhiriniovsky - on the other hand - supports Putin, makes some initiatives to allow him to be the President for the 3rd term, etc., etc.

So - I don't really see any crucial difference here.
25 posted on 08/29/2005 11:29:48 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Actually, if you look at his party's voting record they support Putin about 50% of the time. Trying to start pogroms and racial wars is not supporting Putin who then has to go back and fix this idiot's mess, such as the letter that his and the communist party's deputies (19 out of 450) put forward to ban Jewish orgs.


26 posted on 08/29/2005 11:42:15 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: sergey1973; lizol; Mazepa
Zhirinovsky is a professional demagogue who made a career out of making scandalous statements. It's hard already to tell to what extent he reflects Kremlin views, and to what extent he simply shows off. He is more like of a grotesque evil clown.

I tell you how I see him. His role in Kremlin’s propaganda machine is to play “soft opposition” (artificial). Putin aim is to show the Russian society that “United Russia” is the only reasonable party in Russia. The rest so called “oppositionist” parties represents extreme views and nobody with head in the right place would not vote or support for them.

27 posted on 08/29/2005 12:11:51 PM PDT by Lukasz (On the trees - instead of leafs - we will hang the communists!)
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To: spanalot; lizol; sergey1973

Let's not forget that the Kremlin killed 15 million Ukrainians from 1921 to 1938 ==

'Kremlin' stands for "fortress". Almost each historical russian town has thier own Kremlin. Novgorod' Kremlin, Kazan' Kremlin, Yaroslavl' Kremlin, Pskov' Kremlin.
And Moscow' Kremlin. It was the staff quaters of Partriarkh was occupied by communists in 1919.
So Kremlin as the place cann't kill anyone. It was commies who did.

Who was those commies. For your surprise in first ever commie goverment of Lenin there was 6 ukranian ministers: Podvoiskii, Lunacharskii, Tsurupa, Antonov-Evseenko. Dibenko, Krilenko.
There founded Ukranian Soviet Republic and ukranian Red army.

So quite much of ukranians participated in building USSR. Why they did it? You try to answer yourself.

By the way I have to admit that quite much of ukaranians fought in rows of White Army too. Together with russians.

Learn real history of Civil war 1917-22 and history of USSR not your limited ukro-nazi version.

Try to answer one simple question.
Why the name of new commie state was 'Soviet Union'. Why not "Russian republic" for example?
If there was red Poland and red China but there was NOT red Russia but Soviet Union? Why that?
Simple question. But hard to answer by those who duped by russo-phobia.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 12:21:06 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: Mazepa

Zhirinovskii is a clown. Enough said. If you 'love" him then you love circus:).

Take him as voice of somebodies or somethings of Russia is just stupidity.


29 posted on 08/29/2005 12:23:06 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
Yeah, when a prominent Russian politician says something like that - he's a clown, not worth any attention.

But when some criminal thugs beat Russian teenagers in Warsaw that's what Ivan? ..... Yeah! ... You won! ..... THAT'S POLES' FAULT! And Poland is supposed to apologise.

Is it called bias, or not?
30 posted on 08/29/2005 12:33:10 PM PDT by lizol
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To: jb6
There are 433 members of the Ukrainian parliament, guess how many are from UNA-UNSO. One! Link of the Rada (Andriy Shkil') That is, UNA-UNSO has 0.2% of the parliament. Now let's look at the Russians. LDPR is the 3rd largest party with 7.78% of seats. 0.2 percent versus 7.78 percent- you decide which is more influential.
31 posted on 08/29/2005 12:40:36 PM PDT by Mazepa
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To: jb6; lizol; Mazepa
Korchinsky to reduce taxes

“jb6” posting opinion of neo-nazis to attack Yushchenko. But posting Zhirinovski’s opinion is wrong according to him!

In other thread he blaming Yushchenko that neo-nazis supported him. What a hypocrisy...
Big Guns (Truth on UNA-UNSO)

32 posted on 08/29/2005 12:54:17 PM PDT by Lukasz (On the trees - instead of leafs - we will hang the communists!)
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To: Mazepa

Vladimir Zhirinovsky should have blown a gasket by now. But, he sure has the gift of rhetoric.


33 posted on 08/29/2005 12:56:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (Cloudy, 51 degrees, scattered showers, wind <5 knots in Fairbanks)
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To: RusIvan
"..Who was those commies. For your surprise in first ever commie goverment of Lenin there was 6 ukranian ministers: Podvoiskii, Lunacharskii, Tsurupa, Antonov-Evseenko. Dibenko, Krilenko. There founded Ukranian Soviet Republic and ukranian Red army.."

I'd have to check the names mentioned above, but what I know for sure is that for a republic with 75-80% Ukrainian majority, Ukrainians were under-represented in the party. The first Communist Congresses of the Comm. Party of Ukraine had ethnic Ukrainians at single digits percentage of the Party's composition. At the best of times Ukrainians were 50-60% of the republic's party.

So quite much of ukranians participated in building USSR. Why they did it? You try to answer yourself.

Communists of Ukraine couldn't succeed by themselves- they were to weak, so they invited Russian communists and the glorious Red Army. Russian communists brought that order to Ukraine.

..Why the name of new commie state was 'Soviet Union'. Why not "Russian republic" for example?

In the early days of USSR that was what Stalin was pushing for, unitary rather than federal type, but considering that Ukraine had already separated from Russia with declaration of the Ukr. Nat'l Republic in 1917 and USSR being the "most democratic state" which allocated some freedoms to the national minorities, the republics came to be.

If there was red Poland and red China but there was NOT red Russia but Soviet Union? Why that?

I might call myself "Ruler of the Universe Who Is Hung Like a Horse", but it barely reflects the reality. SU was not a state with republics who were equal, so they might as well call it "Russia".

34 posted on 08/29/2005 1:20:53 PM PDT by Mazepa
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To: RusIvan
Zhirinovskii is a clown. Enough said. If you 'love" him then you love circus:).

That too, but mostly is because he's doing a service- he's presenting what Russians really think of Ukrainians, behind the diplomatic facade and the "brothers"-talk. You tell me, what do you think of Ukraine being independent?

35 posted on 08/29/2005 1:27:29 PM PDT by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa

My Russian wife says Zhirinovsky is crazy. Attempting to link him to Putin one might as well link Bush to David Duke. BTW, Duke and Zhirinovsky met together and share some of the same views.


36 posted on 08/29/2005 1:46:20 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: RusIvan

"So Kremlin as the place cann't kill anyone. It was commies who did. "

The Kremlin has its own Russian culture of ruthless depotism - "One life - One Kopec" is a very old Russian saying.

It goes back to the czars tru the revolution and right up to Putin who will risk submariners and school children and theater hostages just so that the govt is not embarassed.


37 posted on 08/29/2005 2:14:32 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: tet68

"Zero sure knows how to hurt people, calling a Ukranian
a Bandarist is more like a badge of honor."

How many Russian divisions fought the Fascists and Commnists simultaneously.

The answer is none and we have to look at Gen Paton to find a like minded hero.



38 posted on 08/29/2005 2:16:42 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: jb6

"Hmmm, maybe I should use Al Sharpton or David Duke"

How dare you compare them to your Russian legislature.
The problem is that he is accepted and tolerated by the govt.


39 posted on 08/29/2005 2:18:58 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Mazepa

"Now let's look at the Russians. LDPR is the 3rd largest party with 7.78% of seats. 0.2 percent versus 7.78 percent- you decide which is more influential."

And they have the nerve to compare a local yokel like Sharpton who has no offical standing with this very powerful faction of the Russian Govt.


40 posted on 08/29/2005 2:22:12 PM PDT by spanalot
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