Posted on 09/28/2005 4:11:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
Behe's "irreducible complexity" argument is fatally flawed. Ichneumon's post 35.
Inferior Design. Revealing info on ID and the Discovery Institute.
Neither intelligent nor designed. No evidence of wise, omniscient design.
Irreducible Complexity Demystified. Major debunking of ID.
The Flagellum Unspun: The Collapse of "Irreducible Complexity," Kenneth R. Miller. Critique of Behe.
AAAS Board Resolution on Intelligent Design Theory. ID isn't science.
And for the litigation now going on, here'is a link to the offical website of the court where Kitzmiller, et al v. Dover School District, et al. is being tried. If you click on Docket, you get a list of all significant pleadings filed in the case -- the complaint, the answer, etc. They're PDF files, but almost everyone has the Adobe reader. So you can check that website and be fully up to date on what's going on in that litigation.
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Regardless of what is decided here, I'm happy to say that MY God did create the earth in 7 lteral 24 hour days and it didn't take millions or billions of years for Him to do it and He is NO ape. I don't know what "god" these other folks believe in if they believe in a "god" at all.
Thanks again for your efforts on this subject.
The case is about the Constitution -- specifically whether ID is so infused with theology that the school board's decision to present it violates the First Amendment.
if there is intellegent design, why is there so little evidence of intellegence in the PA school board????
If a public school were to teach that gravity works through the intercession of the supernatural (ie. Intelligent Inertia), I would be the first to protest. That doesn't make me a rabid Newtonist...it means I don't want superstition taught at public expense.
From what I read, its a statement about intelligent design. Its not being taught at all. Its merely a disclaimer that there might be a different opinion called intelligent design.
How does that violate the Constitution?
I have a feeling that is going to be lost in the trial: that no one is teaching intelligent design.
They could also read a statrement in physics class that there are differen opinions about the shape of the earth.
Yeh and the faulty logic of separation of church and state.....1st amendment my a##!
You 'hit the nail on the head', I hope that others realize that this case is not about teaching an ID curriculum but simply reading a disclaimer.
Your links do nothing to show that ID is scientifically incorrect.
Teachers should be force to read the following disclaimer everytime the pledge is recited:
"The God this nation is under probably does not exist."
Schools should also be forced to put up a sign on cash registers in the cafeterias and school stores to warn our confusable young ones "The God this nation claims to trust probably does not exist."
We certainly would not want these impressionable children to be misguided into a religion that claims the existance of a God.
Any questions regarding the signage or disclaimers could then be referred to the science department as they obviously have the facts to prove that God does not exist.
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There is no possible form of evidence that could make ID incorrect. That is its primary problem.
I bet they do.
Its just incorporated in the regular teaching.
Thanks for the ping!
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