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The Right’s Left Turn
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 5 OCTOBER 2005 | Jacob Laksin

Posted on 10/05/2005 1:55:23 AM PDT by rdb3

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Okay, admit it. You thought this was against President Bush, didn't you?

Sike!

Anyway, far-Right, meet far-Left. And to think that they call me crazy for saying this.


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1 posted on 10/05/2005 1:55:24 AM PDT by rdb3
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Great post!

If you're not with us, you're against us Rockwell et.al.

A coalition of 62+ million and growing.

2 posted on 10/05/2005 2:06:51 AM PDT by PGalt
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This man is obviously an idiot and his with his world view he will never go further than being watched by a few other looneys.


3 posted on 10/05/2005 2:25:52 AM PDT by bilhosty
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This man is obviously an idiot and his with his world view he will never go further than being watched by a few other looneys.

Maybe. There was a time here when Rockwell was widely respected by some FReepers.


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4 posted on 10/05/2005 2:28:54 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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The Rockwellians joined the enemy a long time ago. The Rockwelians, Buchananites, paleocons, et al, all aligned themselves with France/Germany/Russia and Iraq against America when we went to war against Saddam Hussein. No surprise to me that they'd join in with the America hating Communist backed International ANSWER and the PinkOs. Traitors all.


5 posted on 10/05/2005 2:30:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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The Rockwellians joined the enemy a long time ago. The Rockwelians, Buchananites, paleocons, et al, all aligned themselves with France/Germany/Russia and Iraq against America when we went to war against Saddam Hussein. No surprise to me that they'd join in with the America hating Communist backed International ANSWER and the PinkOs. Traitors all.

It's no secret that I can't stand paleos, be they paleocons or paleolibertarians.


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6 posted on 10/05/2005 2:33:09 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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Maybe. There was a time here when Rockwell was widely respected by some FReepers.
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Garbage. He has always been in the tinfoil hat camp. But I agree, his followers and website writers were around to promote the site and its articles. But they were few and far between.

It is like saying that posts from du are "widely respected by some FReepers". If some means the poster, then it is a dumb statement.


7 posted on 10/05/2005 3:18:11 AM PDT by KeyWest
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Garbage. He has always been in the tinfoil hat camp. But I agree, his followers and website writers were around to promote the site and its articles. But they were few and far between.

It's not "garbage." The main people who talked up Rockwell's site were the same ones who viewed Raimondo with respect. I remember that very well.


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8 posted on 10/05/2005 3:37:00 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I find the Libertarians as short sighted as a cripple supporter of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's.
They both have the same goal of world domination, only Adolf has plans for you and your kind that you seem to have missed.
The moral is don't be so dogmatic that your short term friends are really you long term enemies.
9 posted on 10/05/2005 3:39:38 AM PDT by Recon Dad (The Hallmark JDAM - "For those who want to send only the very best")
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The moral is don't be so dogmatic that your short term friends are really you long term enemies.

That reminds me of what my pastor once said in a warning. He said don't be so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good.


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10 posted on 10/05/2005 3:50:06 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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I'm all for limited government and many of the things the Libertarians stand for. Just remember the paranoid person has enemies too.


11 posted on 10/05/2005 4:01:20 AM PDT by Recon Dad (The Hallmark JDAM - "For those who want to send only the very best")
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"It's no secret that I can't stand paleos, be they paleocons or paleolibertarians".

I thought I was alone (here on FR) in this line of thinking! Thanks!!!

LLS


12 posted on 10/05/2005 4:03:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: rdb3
That two-thirds that continuously polled in favor of and support of the bj commander have to come from some place.
13 posted on 10/05/2005 4:04:20 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Thanks for posting, rdb3. I read this early this morning at frontpagemag.org.

I do recall blips over the past 12 years when Lew's columns were educational. The problem I've always had with the Libertarian platform is that so much of what is "great on paper" is simply not realistic in practice. When something is not realistic in practice, it goes into the category of John O'Sullivan's great maxim: Anything not intrinsically right-leaning will inevitably list leftward.

Another inherent problem with Libertarianism, as I see it? "Self-centeredness". There's no concern for others, or in living civilly amid a community. It is inherently, a "what I want" philosophy which undergirds the Libertarian platform.

Libertarianism *can* work but only if ABSOLUTELY everyone adheres to the tenets of Libertarianism. What does this spell? The flipside of potential tyranny.

Socialism, OTOH, also follows the same marks of Libertarianism but with difference -- in Libertarianism, individuals must pull their "own" weight; In Socialism, there has to be a worker/provider class and then the receipients or beneficiaries of the worker/provider class.

IOW, the shortform translation:

Libertarianism: The Kingdom of Self

Socialism: The Kingdom of the Collective "Self".

14 posted on 10/05/2005 4:41:14 AM PDT by Alia
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I too remember those days and you are correct it isn't "garbage" that more than a few supported Rockwell and Justin RaimondoCano.


15 posted on 10/05/2005 4:45:53 AM PDT by ImpBill (Nothing More!)
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I too remember those days and you are correct it isn't "garbage" that more than a few supported Rockwell and Justin RaimondoCano.

Thank you. I knew it wasn't "garbage" because I was here when I read their nonsense.


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16 posted on 10/05/2005 4:47:19 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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Socialism, OTOH, also follows the same marks of Libertarianism but with difference -- in Libertarianism, individuals must pull their "own" weight; In Socialism, there has to be a worker/provider class and then the receipients or beneficiaries of the worker/provider class.

I haven't compared libertarianism and socialism. I'll look into that.

But my philosophy about libertarianism is that it, too, is a philosophy and can in no way be a self-sustaining political movement.


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17 posted on 10/05/2005 4:51:50 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: rdb3
I agree with you: Libertarianism is a philosophy. It can be a way of "life" but only if everyone around you (including the elected) agree with the "Libertarian" philosophy.

Long-term? Libertarianism very much can lead to anarchy, taken the philosophy to its longer-term logistical endpoint. Why? At the center is "self". So, next door to you lives another "self", and this self has bigger guns than you do, and wants to make you subsurvient to "his" "self". In the Libertarian perspective, there are no intervenors, no laws, except that every person is responsible for the freedoms, wants and wishes of "themselves".

Which is why everytime I read another "evil Republicans with their BIG GUNS" invading countries.. I can only shake my head at their delusions. For this is exactly what Libertarian philosophy would posit -- to get bigger guns to defend one's self, property, family.

But, most Libertarians refuse to discuss the logistical endpoint sum of "libertarianism". No. They wish to stay stuck on the "laissez-faire" line. I like the "laissez-faire" line to a point.

Wikipedia: Laissez-faire

19 posted on 10/05/2005 5:15:29 AM PDT by Alia
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Okay, admit it. You thought this was against President Bush, didn't you?

I admit it. You got me.

20 posted on 10/05/2005 5:17:15 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (trust but verify)
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