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Posted on 10/05/2005 1:55:23 AM PDT by rdb3
Do you think it's better that we let the Nazis, Communists, terrorists and tyrants of the world continue taking territory by force, capturing resources and building strength unchecked? Do you not recognize that we were attacked on 911 by a force that is determined to wipe us off the face of the earth? And that Saddam Hussein was a murderous madman who saw us as his mortal enemy and one who financed, recruited, supported, harbored and trained terrorist forces? Saddam Hussein had already proved that he was a tyrant who would take whatever he wanted, use whatever weapons he could lay his hands on, kill whomever he pleased and was a clear and present danger to the region, to our allies, to our national interests and to our nation. No one wants war, but sometimes it's necessary to defend yourselves and your allies. Clinton allowed attack after attack to go unanswered and look what it got us. The terrorists must not be allowed to build their forces and carry out their murderous activities unchecked. They must be defeated. It's either them or us. Freedom and terrorism cannot coexist.
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No, you're not alone. I'm just going to be more vocal about this.
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Some thoughts and responses:
No, we weren't wrong to try to stop Hitler or Stalin from building world wide power. But comparing this "war" in Iraq to those efforts is apples and oranges. If we had gone into Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc... and done to those countries what we did to Germany and Japan in the 40's, I would be more supportive of our policy of spreading peace at the point of a gun.
All we're doing now is watching Marines and soldiers die for in a half hearted attempt to "win hearts and minds" before crushing the will of the enemy. We must crush them and totally overwhelm them and remove all thought they may have as to our intent of total victory before trying to "win hearts and minds".
I really question anyone who thinks the ragtag "fighters" we're facing in Iraq today are really any threat to this country. My family down here in little old Florida is in no danger because some suicidal maniacs thousands of miles away have RPGs and rifles.
We thought Saddam was building up some massive WMD programs and stockpiles. He was not. When we figured that out, we should have left Iraq immediately.
I really couldn't care less about the Shia/Sunni wars that have been going on for a thousand years, nor am I so arrogant to believe that we have the ability to make them end by bringing McDonald's and voting booths to Baghdad and Fallujah.
I am willing to support the doctrine of preemption so long as it is for legitimate self defense, but when the mission creeps into one about "spreading democracy" and "establishing a culture of freedom", my support dwindles.
I'm not suggesting that Bubba's strategy was correct, but to insist that Bush's plan is the only alternative to Bubba's is very narrow minded.
Frankly, I don't really believe we are fighting a "War on Terror" anymore unless and until we publicly implement nationwide racial/ethnic profiling, begin trying people for treason and/or sedition, and close the borders.
He had to be stopped dead in his tracks before he could wield that power. I'm glad that we destroyed him and his army and his ability to acquire nukes or other WMDs and know that we must continue taking out the remaining tyrants and terrorists in Iraq and wherever else they may rise up. Doesn't matter if they're just a ragtag group of "fighters," actually "terrorists," or a country that recruits, trains, finances or harbors terrorism.
The guys who knocked out the twin towers were just a ragtag bunch. The guys who bombed Spain and London and all the other terrorist attacks attacks around the world, including last week's attack in Oklahoma USA were just a ragtag bunch too.
The scourge of terrorism must be wiped off the face of the planet!! No man, woman or child can be safe or secure or live in freedom until that happens!
If we pull out now we'll only be empowering our enemies like Clinton did. And if we don't kill them over there, I guarantee you they WILL be killing US over here.
Yes, obviously, we must fight to win! That's the whole point. Knock them out before they gain power. Do not let them retake control of Iraq or Afghanistan!
And do not join the mainstream media and traitors on the left in their propaganda war against America which only weakens our will to fight and causes more of our boys and innocent civilians to die in terrorist attacks. The terrorists are our enemy! Do not offer aid and comfort to the enemy!!
Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, John Kerry and the propagandists and communist led protesters of the 60s were all traitors to America. They were the domestic enemy we swore an oath to defend against. Today's propagandists and communist led protesters are of exactly the same ilk. Offering aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime is TREASON!
Don't be a tool of the left! Don't be a useful idiot!
It pisses me off that so many people seem to forget that four years ago nearly 3000 people were murdered because we had a guy in the White House for eight years who cared more about sex than fulfilling his Constitutional responsibilities.
We were never at war with the PEOPLE of Iraq. We were at war with the madman Saddam Hussein and his fascist regime and army. They are now totally destroyed. Iraq has been liberated!
And obviously, we are not at war with the people of Iraq today. The terrorists are. We are Iraq's allies and defenders.
We do not wish to destroy their cities. Just the opposite. We want to help the Iraqis rebuild their cities and their country. And they have demonstrated through their efforts and brave sacrifices at constructing a new constitution and electing their own governments that they wish to live in peace and freedom and be part of the free world.
They are now building their own security forces and wish to destroy their own enemy within and we will continue working with them in that endeavor until the true enemy of freedom, those who would wage a war of terror against innocents, are totally destroyed.
Right on Jim. BTTT...
Lew Rockwell is a horse's ass, IMO. The sad thing is that he and the Libertarian Party have done more to harm the cause of libertarianism than more authoritarian philosophies could ever hope to do.
It's pretty simple.
Islamic terror has its origin in the Middle East. Two more countries friendly to the United States and the whole complexion of the region changes for the better. Suddenly countries that sponsor terror are a minority instead of a majority. Alternately, leave Afghanistan under the Taliban and Iraq under Saddam, leave the Middle East primarily hostile countries and the chances of wiping out Islamic terror seem hopeless.
You got that right.
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I'm something of a libertarian myself, and consider that our founding fathers were too, within the context of their time. But I can't stand the LP or Lew Rockwell, or any of those people on the Left, who get modern "liberalism" mixed up with individual freedom.
After reading that thread about Bork referring to the Miers nomination as a disaster yesterday, the phrase "horse's ass" came into my mind and I'm kind of "stuck" on it for the moment :-D
Pure BS
Pat Buchanan is a traitor now because he doesn't walk hand-in-hand w/ President Bush on everything he does?? I'll go write Pat a letter asking him to stop being so damn conservative all the time. Calling President Bush out on his out of control spending, poor Supreme Court nomination, open borders and a war he feels wasn't in our best interest. I mean shucks if that isnt the behavior of a traitor I dont know what is. Give me Pat Buchanan for president any day of the week and twice on Sunday over our curent fearless conservative leader. I'll now wait about 5 minutes before my post is deleted and my account is probably banned for voicing my opinion.
I am "far-right" and I have nothing in common at all w/ Lew Rockwell.
Even down to the obligatory heaved sigh as I clicked on the link.
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But is it really being a drama queen?? I've seen plenty of people banned at the drop of a hat for posting something that strayed too far from the norm.
Yes it is. Regardless of what you've seen, you're being a Drama Queen. It's almost like you are tempting someone to ban you.
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