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Americans Worshipping New God Called 'Tolerance'
Daley Times-Post ^ | Oct. 8, 2005 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 10/08/2005 12:41:45 PM PDT by Lindykim

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To: SmartCitizen

Do you recall the author of that quote? If you do (or if the author's name comes to you in the near future) please freepmail me with it. I'd appreciate it.


61 posted on 10/09/2005 2:43:59 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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To: tuffydoodle
We're fighting a losing battle to keep our children innocent. But I'll keep up the fight til the day I die.

"Innocence" is a nice way of saying "ignorance" and if you force children to remain ignorant of the world around them, then the rest world will chew them up and spit them out.

This is the same type of "ignorance" that the leftists follow in their belief that fanatic terrorists can be peacefully reasoned with.

Your way of 'ignorance", like the leftists' way, is suicide for those children you claim to protect with ignorance.

62 posted on 10/09/2005 2:58:33 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup; little jeremiah; Clint N. Suhks; DBeers; scripter
Look who came to educate us about "Innocence" w.r.t children..

And on an Alfred Kinsey thread no doubt.

63 posted on 10/09/2005 4:47:33 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

"Your way of 'ignorance", like the leftists' way, is suicide for those children you claim to protect with ignorance."

I have read about pedophiles who have the exact same claim.


64 posted on 10/09/2005 5:24:20 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: little jeremiah
There are only two authorities in regard to knowing what is true - what is right and wrong, moral and immoral. 1. God 2. One's own mind.

This is mostly true, except that it should read 1. God and 2. Man. I changed it because moral relativism can be on a personal level, a cultural level, or a governnment level, and the government has the power to enforce its idea of right and wrong. In any case, the source is man or one of his institutions if it is not God.

65 posted on 10/09/2005 6:02:34 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: Lindykim

The quote is from Eric Hoffer, quoted by Francis Schaeffer in "How Should We Then Live?". The actual quote is: "When freedom destroys order, the yearning for order will destroy freedom."


66 posted on 10/09/2005 6:50:23 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: tuffydoodle
I have read about pedophiles who have the exact same claim.

Then you should stop supporting them.

67 posted on 10/09/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Look who came to educate us about "Innocence" w.r.t children..

It is a cold, cruel world and if you don't prepare children for this fact, then you are making them suffer a form of abuse.

68 posted on 10/09/2005 7:03:35 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Lindykim

"Tolerance:" The inability to say yes or no. The inability to take a stand.


69 posted on 10/09/2005 7:06:27 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

I think you should stay away from children, since you feel they need to be relieved of their "ignorance" as you put it.



70 posted on 10/09/2005 7:19:51 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
It is a cold, cruel world and if you don't prepare children for this fact, then you are making them suffer a form of abuse.

Ultimately your opinion regarding subjective morality is quite valid in regard to your children ONLY -if you wish to experiment do it with your own genetic posterity...

71 posted on 10/09/2005 7:29:24 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: little jeremiah; A. Pole
If anything I say can help even one person learn to avoid the pitfalls of instant gratification, or following the herd because everyone else is going that way, withstand being pressued into wrong just in order to feel liked or accepted, or gain a little inner conviction that God does exist, and it does matter to Him what choices we make - I'll be happy.

I have another thought too, I think a lot of this is also cause by our rampant consumerist society. Glenn Beck was talking about this one day last week on his show. Commercialism and consumerism has it's places, sure, but when we start adopting a mentality of having it all now and buying to keep up with the Joneses and so on, we run into problems both financially and spiritually. Everyone wants the latest HDTV, car, $350K house and are ill able to afford it but are willing to chase it at the expense of Godly living, family and so on.
72 posted on 10/09/2005 7:56:26 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"Innocence" is a nice way of saying "ignorance" and if you force children to remain ignorant of the world around them, then the rest world will chew them up and spit them out.

I completely disagree. As I see it, parents should try to keep their children innocent as long as possible, and when each child is old enough to understand the issues, the parents can take them aside and explain the issues.

I don't believe a child should learn about every issue at once. Rather, the parents can decide when and what issue on which to educate their children.

74 posted on 10/09/2005 8:37:17 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: Nowhere Man

I agree more than 100%. Material goodies do not bring happniness, and if the ownership of all the good stuff is the center of one's existence either individually or as a family, it is like a tree without a root, a body without a hert.


75 posted on 10/09/2005 8:49:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: SmartCitizen

Thanks. What a profoundly insightful truism. I fear America will be forced by circumstances to veer towards authoritarianism eventually.


76 posted on 10/09/2005 10:27:57 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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To: Jay777

"Death, suffering, and disease"....promote, protected and sanctified by the ACLU


77 posted on 10/09/2005 10:54:37 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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To: tuffydoodle
I think you should stay away from children, since you feel they need to be relieved of their "ignorance" as you put it.

You are the one who wants to harm children.

Personally, I don't give a damn about the children. To many people have been murdered 'for the children'.

78 posted on 10/09/2005 11:45:22 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

You aren't making sense anymore. Up your dosage then get back to me.


79 posted on 10/09/2005 1:08:57 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Well lets just 'educate' our very young children with sex, bondage, child molesters and porn movies and then they can just fit in with people like you can't they.
You need serious help and I hope the police have your name on their list so they can monitor your movements.
80 posted on 10/09/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT by Rose of Sharn (I get the best answers when i talk to myself!)
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