Posted on 10/09/2005 4:25:36 PM PDT by blam
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I understand Moses had some help from God, too.
Interesting. The Exodus is dated by the Bible as 480 (solar) years before the laying of the cornerstone of the Temple, which foundation is dated by O.T. chronologists working from Kings and Chronicles to about 966 B.C. Hence, a date is found for the plagues of about 1406 B.C.
I believe it's GENE Shoemaker.
Or maybe it was the Angel of the Lord.
Oops. 1446 B.C.
I think the volcano eruption make more sense that most theories.
Velokowski? thought that Venus was a comet that was captured by the sun, and that its passage caused great disturbances. His explanations of the plagues using this theory was pretty far out.
I remember a National Geographic article in the 1950's that talked about grasshoppers in the Sinai desert that excrete a carbohydrate that is edible, and NG author conjectured that this was the manna of Exodus. I think that article also stated that a reversal of tides phenomenon is known in the Red Sea area that causes waters to retreat occasionally, making it possible to cross.
As Moses was in exile in that area, he probably was familiar with these phenomena.
The most interesting plague is the death of the first born.
Not sure volcanos can explain that, although the deaths of those who didn't keep the same hygiene rules the Hebrews did would explain why mostly Egyptians died in a time of flies and boils, but not why the first born would be affected only.
One of the plagues mentioned in Exodus is a plague of frogs. Napoleon conquered Egypt in 1798 and brought with him a bunch of French scholars who studied the antiquities of Egypt. You'd think they would have made a special search for the bones of the frogs, being French.
Velikovsky was nuts. The planet Venus is just slightly smaller than the earth. Comets are vastly smaller bodies than an earth-sized planet...there is simply no way that a comet could have transmogrified itself into the planet Venus.
I have some problem with the volcano part. If I recall correctly, they were led thru the wilderness by the pillar of smoke by day and fire by night for 40 years. That seems a bit long for one volcano to spew.
Volcanos can spew ash for long periods and appear fiery by night.
Mauna Loa? in Hawaii has been erupting for years.
Still, I agree that scientific discussion of religious text is problematic at best, though fun for some.
Yes, that's usually the point missed.
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So tell me, have you read Worlds in Collision? Earth In Upheaval? or Ages in Chaos? Or don't you need to read a book to know a theory is wrong or the author is nuts?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/velikovsky-ghost.htm
You're spot on, (Eu)gene Shoemaker, and of course, the actual discoverer, Carolyn Shoemaker. Gene and David were figuring out where to point the telescope, and were taking the photos.
Excellent summary. I have the Pensee publications.
I do not agree with the end of the article where it tries to debunk some "scholar". One would have to debunk the entire "scientific community".
But, since they predicted Venus to be cold and it is not, they lost one. Since they did not believe that there would be radio emissions, they lost two. Since Velikovsky only reported what the ancients said, they lost three....
in reference to Baillie's claims about the (non-)eruption of Thera...
New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 07/29/2004 12:25:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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I suspected that!
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