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Bush: Palestine is upon us
Jerusalem NewsWire ^ | 20 October, 2005 | Ryan Jones

Posted on 10/20/2005 6:22:57 PM PDT by Salem

US President George W. Bush Thursday declared that the dream he shares with the Arab world of birthing a Muslim state on the ancient Jewish lands of Judea, Samaria and Gaza is closer to reality today than ever before.

He vowed to use America's considerable influence to help “realize [that] shared vision.”

Speaking at a joint press conference in Washington, Bush heaped praise on visiting PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas, despite the latter's refusal to honor his primary peace commitment to disarm and dismantle anti-Jewish “Palestinian” terrorist organizations.

For Israel he had a warning: You will be “held to account” for any actions that hinder Washington's “peace” efforts and burden the lives of the Palestinian Arabs.

Bush also admonished Abbas, telling him that “the way forward is confronting the threat armed gangs present to the creation of a democratic Palestine.”

He said it is time for the Palestinian Authority to “earn the confidence of its neighbors by rejecting and fighting terrorism.”

The tone of his remarks indicated the president had accepted Abbas' assertion that the Palestinian Arabs are “committed to peace” and that his regime has already taken steps to impose the rule of law.

But Abbas made it clear his policies do not include the forced disarmament of those dedicated to Israel's demise.

“We are following a policy I believe is successful,” he said. “All [terrorist] organizations accepted the [temporary truce].”

Likud MK and Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee chairman Yuval Steinitz, however, warned that if Abbas did not act in accordance with signed agreements, he could find himself isolated in his Ramallah headquarters, like Yasser Arafat before him.

“Either he fights terror and disarms the organizations, or Israel will behave toward him as it did toward his predecessor and isolate him in the Muqata,” the Itim news agency quoted Steinitz as saying.

Steinitz reacted with fury to an editorial published earlier in the day that Abbas had penned for The Wall Street Journal, in which the Arab accused Israel of acting to strengthen the more radical elements of “Palestinian” society in an effort to see his rule fail.

“It's clear that there is no end to audacity,” Steinitz said. “The man who is personally making it possible for Hamas and the other terror organizations to hold onto their weapons and prepare for another round of bloodshed is accusing Israel of strengthening them.”

In the editorial, Abbas claimed to have created “a climate of peace” since his assumption of power in January, and suggested the only thing preventing regional harmony were the obstacles “Israel has created.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; abbasvisit; bush; israel; palestine; state; terror; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 10/20/2005 6:22:58 PM PDT by Salem
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2 posted on 10/20/2005 6:24:40 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

Is it the hubris of all US presidents, to believe they can and must reconcile Israel with those who would obliterate Israel?


4 posted on 10/20/2005 6:30:48 PM PDT by unspun (unspun.info | What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: iraqikurd

my only hopwe is that although bush spews this stupid $%^t in public, behind closed doors he shouted abbas down like he has never shouted down anyone before.

for example: "you shut hamas down, or by god i will do it for you. i am SICK of your doublespeak, jackass!" i would be rather content with that.

it could not be more clear to me how the arafatistanis have failed to live up to nearly ANY of the agreements they have made, nor live up to any standard of human decency. why they deserve any praise at all is beyond me.


5 posted on 10/20/2005 6:32:18 PM PDT by DMinus
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To: unspun
"Is it the hubris of all US presidents, to believe they can and must reconcile Israel with those who would obliterate Israel?"

Guess it's a "legacy" thing. What will be written in ten years concerning the Bush legacy and Israel will be interesting.

This deal is going to only have one outcome.

7 posted on 10/20/2005 6:35:22 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem
For Israel he had a warning: You will be “held to account” for any actions that hinder Washington's “peace” efforts and burden the lives of the Palestinian Arabs.

I believe George has just bit off far more than he can chew...

8 posted on 10/20/2005 6:35:55 PM PDT by Iscool (Your choice...The Party, or the Republic...)
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To: Iscool
"I believe George has just bit off far more than he can chew..."

Kind of like watching some one you care about walking into the path of a speeding truck and there is nothing you can do about it. Sick feeling.

9 posted on 10/20/2005 6:39:42 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

Hmmm.. thought I was reading Scrapple.


10 posted on 10/20/2005 6:40:15 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Salem

Too many generations have been taught to hate the Jews. Too many kids have been brainwashed. Too many imans preaching hate.

There ain't gonna be a peaceful Palestine to coexist with or within Israel in our lifetime.


11 posted on 10/20/2005 6:44:03 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: iraqikurd
We will see a Palestinian state soon

Not in 50 years. The Palestinians are not a people, nor do they have a history.

Bush is either paying lip service to the placate the EU/UN folks or he's gone out of his mind.

The only ending of this B movie is total victory for one side or the other......via a blood bath.

12 posted on 10/20/2005 6:44:47 PM PDT by zarf
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"my only hopwe is that although bush spews this stupid $%^t in public, behind closed doors he shouted abbas down like he has never shouted down anyone before."

Wishful thinking on your part. Bush's daddy is an Arabist, and always has been, with close ties to the Saudi royal family. The acorn falls close to the tree. Bush is also seeking his "legacy" now, and one component of that, as most of the others have failed during this term (social security, low public opinion polls, MSM slamming Iraq War, alleged, though phony, scandals, a really really bad choice for the Supreme Court) is resolving the Middle East situation, by any means possible. It's the only chip Bush has left to establish his legacy, at the moment, and I think he will go full bore ahead, and most likely at the expense of Israel, unless Israel wakes up and smells the burning coffee.


13 posted on 10/20/2005 6:46:16 PM PDT by flaglady47
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unless something has changed drastically, or unless you see something i don't, the president has never given a HOOT about poll numbers or "legacy." thats one of the few things left that i respect him for.


15 posted on 10/20/2005 6:51:00 PM PDT by DMinus
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To: flaglady47

Good assessment of the current scenario.


16 posted on 10/20/2005 6:52:10 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

Yada yada yada. All we are going to see is more of this;
http://seconddraft.org/movies.php

The more Israel gives up, the more the militants are going to cause violence. We are rewarding terror.


17 posted on 10/20/2005 6:52:41 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Conroe, TX)
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To: Salem
For Israel he had a warning: You will be “held to account” for any actions that hinder Washington's “peace” efforts and burden the lives of the Palestinian Arabs.

I'm not liking the way this sounds. NOT one bit.

18 posted on 10/20/2005 6:53:05 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (FR1....Varoooooom, Varooooooom!!!)
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To: iraqikurd

Those are wonderful sentiments but they haven't a chance of actually happening. The next step here is for the Palestinians to do what they do and degenerate into total chaos and anarchy, yet again forcing all their neighbors, but most especially Israel, to do something to defend itself.

The only practical solution is to move the Palestinians to an uninhabited area where they can do the least harm to the rest of the planet. They need space to grow and they don't have it where they are, and they have no prospects of getting it. There's no natural resources for them to trade with to get what they need to build a society, and international aid has been proven to have no effect other than to further fuel corruption and terrorism.

Remember the alleged first step along the road to peace is the end of the Palestinian terror campaign. Because ending terrorism was the key provision of the Oslo agreement, and the key to its failure as well (Arafat instead escalated the war against Israel, with the "intifada"), it was insisted taht before anything along the Road Map were to happen, the terror campaign must end.

It of course continues to this day; there was never any end to the attacks, never any surcease of the brutality. A "ceasefire" was declared every now and again - Palestinian children still arrived in Israel with bombs of explosive, nails, and poison strapped to them, even during alleged truces. They still do today, when they are not firing rockets at Israeli towns, killing people, or assaulting Jews in the streets of Jerusalem.

There is no peace and never was. The English and Hebrew words changed; the Arabic never did. The only change in the Palestinian behavior is that they have become more brutal, chaotic, and hopeless - by their own choice.

Abbas is no different than Arafat was. Arafat died, what changed? Palestininans still attack, attack, attack, relentlessly. It is time to face the truth that the Palestinian culture is incompatible with civilized cultures, and until that changes there will always be war.


19 posted on 10/20/2005 6:53:59 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("Stare decisis" means every bad decision a court ever made is perpetually binding)
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To: Brad's Gramma

"I'm not liking the way this sounds. NOT one bit."

Ditto, in fact I actually thought at first this was a satire from Scrappleface. I wonder what GWB's words were exactly, has something been taken out of context..


20 posted on 10/20/2005 6:57:25 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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