The increasing daily casualty rate for Iraqis, from 26 in early 2004 to an average of 64 in this fall, is only the most glaring sign that something has gone terribly wrong, and not for lack of any American effort to turn the situation around.
1 posted on
12/11/2005 2:51:22 PM PST by
neverdem
To: neverdem
"But in the larger sense, such optimism is misguided, for none of the problems associated with Iraq's monumental change have been sorted out. "
Sure they have - Saddam Hussein is no longer in power and Iraqis are themselves 'sorting out' the problems.
Iraq is no longer totalitarian state, that's the biggest cause for optimism. To the NYSlimes, removing Hussein was a mistake - wish the NYT would actually TALK to Iraqis before telling everyone how they should feel.
2 posted on
12/11/2005 2:55:05 PM PST by
wvobiwan
(It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
To: neverdem
Just more "canned liberal sunshine" from the radical leftists that are so heavily invested in negativism and defeatism.
3 posted on
12/11/2005 2:55:18 PM PST by
EagleUSA
To: neverdem
The increasing daily casualty rate for Iraqis, from 26 in early 2004 to an average of 64 in this fall, is only the most glaring sign that something has gone terribly wrong,Only thing wrong is that the insurgents terrorists can't seem to control their angst.
4 posted on
12/11/2005 2:57:53 PM PST by
jla
To: neverdem
6 posted on
12/11/2005 2:58:39 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: neverdem
"the most glaring sign that something has gone terribly wrong"
Witness the Clarion of Doom..
7 posted on
12/11/2005 2:59:40 PM PST by
RTINSC
(Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
To: neverdem
Saddam was running 150+/day through wood chippers and other such means of murder. What they have now is a hell of a lot better if you ask me. Of course the slimes, err..., Times failed to include this. Probably didn't have room with all the Macy's ads for the upcoming 'Holidays'...
8 posted on
12/11/2005 3:01:07 PM PST by
GW and Twins Pawpaw
(Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
To: neverdem
If the libs want the troops to come home they must admit that Bush and the troops have done a good job and the War has been won. But the libs don't want the troops to come home THAT bad.
9 posted on
12/11/2005 3:02:30 PM PST by
Mike Darancette
(Mesocons for Rice '08)
To: neverdem
The New York Times (or their predecessors) said the same things about America in the 1770s. The revolution will fail. America can't win. It's a quagmire. George W. is a failure. The new nation cannot survive. The people are too dumb to govern themselves. The proposed US Constitution is flawed. Has built-in inconsistencies. It'll never work.
America will never be free. At least, it won't if the NYT and their freedom-hating cohorts have anything to say about it. And neither will Iraq. The NYT will go down fighting to make sure of it.
To: neverdem
One of the main leaders of Iraq, I think the gentleman is the Kurd, says that's what the cost of freedom is all about.
11 posted on
12/11/2005 3:06:36 PM PST by
shield
(The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
To: neverdem
For the new political elite cast into power by the elections last January has been unable even to begin to create a stable and strong Iraqi state to replace the one overthrown in April 2003. The increasing daily casualty rate for Iraqis, from 26 in early 2004 to an average of 64 in this fall... Um...the "stable and strong" pre-2003 Iraq was murdering tens of thousands of people on average. If you bother to do the math, that comes to a hell of a lot more than 64 a day.
is only the most glaring sign that something has gone terribly wrong,
Yes, something has gone terribly wrong with your religion.
13 posted on
12/11/2005 3:10:27 PM PST by
denydenydeny
("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
To: neverdem
no sudden moves, relax, then react, nothing more
To: neverdem
The closer Iraq comes to peace and stability the more hysterical will become the Democrats and their allies in the media. Victory frightens them to death. The New York Times in 1946 advocated pulling U.S. troops out of occupied Germany because of casualties caused by ex-Nazi guerrillas. Had Truman followed this idiotic advice Soviet Russia would have taken over all of Germany and then moved on the rest of Western Europe. The Times is fifth column for all seasons.
17 posted on
12/11/2005 3:34:46 PM PST by
Brad from Tennessee
(Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
To: neverdem
Interesting article.
Be prepared to see these statements miraculously appear as DNC talking points!
26 posted on
12/11/2005 5:34:26 PM PST by
R_Kangel
("Those who follow wise men shall become wise, ......those who follow fools shall be destroyed !!!")
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