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Fixing the leak
toledoblade ^ | December 24, 2005 | Kelly, Jack

Posted on 12/24/2005 8:25:40 AM PST by ncountylee

FINALLY, some good may come from the Valerie Plame kerfuffle - if Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has the stones to do what's right.

A grave crime was exposed Dec. 16 when New York Times reporters James Risen and Eric Lichtblau published a story revealing President Bush authorized the National Security Agency to listen in on conversations between al-Qaeda suspects abroad and people in the United States without first obtaining a warrant.

"We're seeing clearly now that [President] Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator," wrote Newsweek's Jonathan Alter.

But the scandal was not the program Mr. Risen and Mr. Lichtblau wrote about. The scandal is that they wrote about it.

The intercept program has uncovered al-Qaeda plots, and public exposure cripples it, Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden said at a news conference Monday. Now deputy director of National Intelligence, General Hayden was head of the NSA when the intercept program was started.

Among the plots uncovered was one by Iyman Faris, a naturalized U.S. citizen living in Ohio, to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, sources say. Faris discussed the plan on the phone with Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, then al-Qaeda's operations officer.

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


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1 posted on 12/24/2005 8:25:40 AM PST by ncountylee
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""We're seeing clearly now that [President] Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator," wrote Newsweek's Jonathan Alter.

Newsweek should be forced to put a donkey on their cover. First to show that they are the communications arm of the Democrat party and second to show that most of their writers and editors are jackasses.

2 posted on 12/24/2005 8:29:52 AM PST by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: ncountylee

Alberto "What's Immigration Law?" Gonzales won't have the stones to do what is right, so don't get your hopes up. We will continue to bear this endless stream of left-wing treason until a US city gets nuked.


3 posted on 12/24/2005 8:30:26 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: ncountylee

The author is absolutely right.

All those involved in revealing this information should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Revealing national security information is a felony.

I also read, that President Bush met with the Chief editor and other high level of executives of the NYT, imploring them to NOT publish this information, because of its impact on National Security, and they did it anyway.

They should all be tried for treason.


4 posted on 12/24/2005 8:30:35 AM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: thoughtomator

"We will continue to bear this endless stream of left-wing treason until a US city gets nuked."


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I am afraid you are 100% correct.


5 posted on 12/24/2005 8:31:31 AM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: ncountylee

In a real war, these traitor/saboteurs could be dealt with appropriately.


6 posted on 12/24/2005 8:31:42 AM PST by Lexington Green (JOURNALIST - What a propagandist calls himself.)
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To: Lexington Green

What ever happened to the firing squads? This is the result, as Rush puts it, the Oprahizing of America


7 posted on 12/24/2005 8:36:40 AM PST by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: FairOpinion
I too have come to believe we will have to experience another catastrophe before Americans understand the savagery of the Muslim filth and the danger of allowing the "blame America" left to have anything to do with, or say about, fighting this war
8 posted on 12/24/2005 8:37:24 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: thoughtomator

We will continue to bear this endless stream of left-wing treason until a US city gets nuked.
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Yes, and all of it will REST COMPLETELY ON THE BACKS OF THE WASHINGTON POLITICAL CLASS who, as even before 9/11, continue to demonstrate their attitude, their fortitude, and their personal politics, which are woefully INEPT to protect and defend this country.


9 posted on 12/24/2005 8:38:01 AM PST by EagleUSA
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A good start would be to subpoena the reporters and editors concerned and jail them until they reveal their sources.

The sources should be fired and tried for violating the oaths they took when they got their security clearances.

I doubt whether it's practicable to try anyone for treason at this point, but they can still lose their jobs and spend a few years in jail for breaking the law.

This article makes exactly the point I have been making. The entire press has been saying that people must be punished for the minor crime of leaking about Plame. Or perhaps no crime at all, since she was outed many years before, and didn't have the right job description to make it a crime to reveal it.

Now that a major crime has been committed, it should be punished. If the administration fails to do it, they will as good as say that they will not enforce our secrecy laws. These leakers are not stupid. They see repeatedly that they can get away with it without any consequences, so they will continue to do it.

For the sake of our country's security if not to protect the administration from more similar attacks, Bush must act. It is his duty to do so, and there has never been a better time.


10 posted on 12/24/2005 8:38:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: hometoroost

"Newsweek should be forced to put a donkey on their cover. First to show that they are the communications arm of the Democrat party and second to show that most of their writers and editors are jackasses."

O'Reilly did quite a good interview on radio with Alter - good in the sense that O'Reilly let Alter be a jackass squared.

Newsweak is I believe also the spawning ground of devil's child Eleanor Clift. If stupid was a crime they'd have to reopen Alcatraz just for her.


11 posted on 12/24/2005 8:45:18 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: ncountylee

I think a firing squad would fix the leak problem right up.


12 posted on 12/24/2005 8:47:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: hometoroost

Like anything "Flush the Koran" Newweak says has any crediblity. Intresting that this JackAs2 initials are J.A. guess there really is truth in advertising


13 posted on 12/24/2005 8:50:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: EagleUSA
Yes, and all of it will REST COMPLETELY ON THE BACKS OF THE WASHINGTON POLITICAL CLASS

Yeah. Let's NOT hold the "Journalists" accountable for their actions. No let's use it as yet another excuse for an Anti-Dc tirade. How about some Freepers try ONE time to actually hold the people doing wrong accountable??????

14 posted on 12/24/2005 8:53:25 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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If we get nuked it will be open season on MSM "journalists", and I will be happy to run a website to track all those bastards down.


15 posted on 12/24/2005 8:55:04 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: hometoroost
I'm forced to get back on my rant from a year ago because Media continues to be as much a problem for this country as are the libs.

1)MSM is not mainstream and should not be credited with being such. They are Old Media. Let's call them that.

2)Turn them off. Completely. We'll speed their demise if 50+% of the voting public refuse to read their trash or watch their news programming. Do not patronize their sponsors.

Evidence shows we've made progress, but let's re-double our efforts. These POS must be killed twice, just like cockroaches.

16 posted on 12/24/2005 9:05:55 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: ncountylee

While President Bush is Protecting America, the DNC is Protecting Al Queda!

The Risen and Leaktbaugh should answer two questions: Cigarette? Blindfold?

Merry Christmas to Our Victorious Troops


17 posted on 12/24/2005 9:16:07 AM PST by bray (Merry Christmas Iraq)
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The more they harp on this, the more the media will boost the president's poll numbers. The story broke last week, and his approval rating hit 50% at Rasmussen.

Americans - even the majority who do not use blogs or other web news and opinion sources as part of their current events information - will eventually understand the reality of Article II of the Constitution. They will understand the presidential duty to defend the nation by gathering foreign intelligence even if it involves citizens. They will learn about Carter, Reagan, and Clinton and how those presidents tapped communications links and how Clinton even broke into a citizen's residence to seize documents and other proof of spying, without a warrant!

Congress has approval ratings half that of the president (heh!). People do not want Congress to control foreign affairs (it's too slow and leaky) and will resent its interference in the Constituionally-mandated duties of the president. The more vocal Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi become, the more the citizens will realize their criticisms are not made to protect our rights. More and more Americans will see that Democrats simply want to gain power and are willing to do anything to get it, even weakening the country and exposing it to more attacks!

Another Rovian Storm, swamping the contemporary liberal-leftist dinghy of the Democrat Party. Yes.

18 posted on 12/24/2005 9:18:11 AM PST by TheGeezer
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I am about ready to hand over national security to the NYT since they are sooo good at it.--with the provision that a with every terrorist attack, another employee with the times be electrocuted, starting at the top with the head loonies.


19 posted on 12/24/2005 9:24:47 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Cicero

Excellent thread #10. If action is not swift and the level of punishment is not enough to fit the crime we will have lost the war on leaks. These leaks are probably the most grievous act a traitor could do.

Incidently the Phame incident was bogus to start with and what an injustice to the American justice system.


20 posted on 12/24/2005 10:04:34 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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