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Fixing the leak
toledoblade ^ | December 24, 2005 | Kelly, Jack

Posted on 12/24/2005 8:25:40 AM PST by ncountylee

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To: TheGeezer
".....against all enemies, foreign or domestic....."

Plain enough language for me! MSM is a domestic enemy...period!

21 posted on 12/24/2005 10:23:37 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: EagleUSA
We will continue to bear this endless stream of left-wing treason until a US city gets nuked

A nuked city is just another big story to break, and a chance to make a name for themselves, to these sociopathic dirtbags. That they might be the victim is just another worthwhile risk, like hugging a telephone pole in the middle of a hurricane. They will destroy the preventative measures, then blame Bush for not preventing it. They are sick, evil people.

22 posted on 12/24/2005 10:34:24 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: Cicero
I doubt whether it's practicable to try anyone for treason at this point,

Part of the problem there is that the liberals have been allowed to define everything out of the word treason. Just try to get a liberal to define what is treason without defining it as Bush/Cheney.

23 posted on 12/24/2005 10:43:55 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: EagleUSA
all of it will REST COMPLETELY ON THE BACKS OF THE WASHINGTON POLITICAL CLASS

Don't forget the Upper West Side political class, and the Hollywood political class.

24 posted on 12/24/2005 10:45:58 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: MNJohnnie

No let's use it as yet another excuse for an Anti-Dc tirade.
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Who sets national defense policy and carries the responsiblilty for it?? Journalists?? Nice try.


25 posted on 12/24/2005 10:46:49 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: lepton

It might be worth reviving. We definitely need treason laws to protect our country. But let's start by jailing the reporters, a remedy that has already proven effective in the Plame case. Also their editors, who presumably authorized these stories and, if what they were saying in the Miller case is true, were told the names of the sources.


26 posted on 12/24/2005 11:53:14 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MNJohnnie

Criminals are responsible for their crimes. But if law enforcement doesn't do it's job, then they share some of the responsibility.

If you never arrest anyone for robbing a bank, soon you will have a lot of people robbing banks.

If you never arrest anyone for leaking vital national secrets, soon you will have a lot of people leaking national secrets.

The rule of law, by which our country lives, requires that the laws be fairly, justly, and reasonably enforced.

And there's no use blaming the Democrats. Sure, many of them are criminally complicit, but they will not be punished unless the Republicans who control the Justice Department arouse from their stupor and do something about it.

Bush is by no means chiefly to blame, but after a while, if he continues to do nothing, he becomes technically complicit and shares some of the blame.


27 posted on 12/24/2005 11:57:26 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: FairOpinion
I also read, that President Bush met with the Chief editor and other high level of executives of the NYT, imploring them to NOT publish this information, because of its impact on National Security, and they did it anyway.

They did it anyway because they have only one agenda - the deposing of President Bush before his term is over. We are going to hear a constant increase in the MSM about impeachment until by late summer '06 it will be so shrill you will not be able to turn on your TV let alone read a newspaper. The RATS are going to run advertisement stating "Here is our articles of impeachment - vote DEMONRAT for the house and we promise you impeachment" Mark my words the stage is being set, MSM is a major player and the NYT cares much more about restoring DEMONRAT power than they do about the safety of America. Hope the next islamofacist plane plows into the NYT building.

28 posted on 12/24/2005 3:52:03 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: ncountylee

A hypothetical for you. Imagine there has been wrongdoing by people in power in this country, imagine there are witnesses to that crime who wish to report it to the FBI. The wrongdoers, having knowledge of this, proceed to call out the agency under discussion and interecept their communications, all in the name of national security. Smacks of tyrany to me. Lest we forget Richard Nixon.


29 posted on 12/25/2005 4:40:42 PM PST by TiaS
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To: TiaS
"A hypothetical for you. Imagine there has been wrongdoing by people in power in this country, imagine there are witnesses to that crime who wish to report it to the FBI. The wrongdoers, having knowledge of this, proceed to call out the agency under discussion and interecept their communications, all in the name of national security. Smacks of tyrany to me. Lest we forget Richard Nixon."

Watergate actually showed that the exedcutive branch is in danger of wrongdoing from the FBI. There was more wrongdoing at the FBI than the White House and "deep throat"(Asst. director of the FBI) was later convicted of felonies while Nixon never was.

Anyone who can wiretaps and spies. There is supposed to be a giant radio installation in Cuba just for monitoring U.S. communications. And I'd worry more about loony Fidel than the U.S. spies motives.

There aren't any secrets, get used to it.

30 posted on 12/26/2005 7:13:20 AM PST by MilleniumBug (Pattycake, Pattycake, Wilson's the man...Bake me a yellowboy fast as you can.)
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To: MilleniumBug

Sir, that was the "old" FBI. Nixon ordered the assassination of at least one journalist -- Jack Anderson. Then, there was the threat against Kathryn Grahm by Attorney Journal, John Mitchell. How would you like yours put through the wringer?


31 posted on 12/26/2005 7:26:02 AM PST by TiaS
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To: chiller
2)Turn them off. Completely. We'll speed their demise if 50+% of the voting public refuse to read their trash or watch their news programming. Do not patronize their sponsors.

To figure out who is sponsoring them would I not have to turn them on? I can not do that any more.

32 posted on 12/26/2005 7:33:49 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
Not necessarily. Suppose Company XYZ advertises only on OLD Media news shows which we don't watch. We would not be inclined to patronize the compay if we don't know about it.

I'm not suggesting an official sponsor boycott. Lots of vagueries and cross-overs, but generally support your radio and internet site sponsors.

33 posted on 12/26/2005 8:22:55 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: Cicero

"A good start would be to subpoena the reporters and editors concerned and jail them until they reveal their sources.

The sources should be fired and tried for violating the oaths they took when they got their security clearances.

I doubt whether it's practicable to try anyone for treason at this point, but they can still lose their jobs and spend a few years in jail for breaking the law.

This article makes exactly the point I have been making. The entire press has been saying that people must be punished for the minor crime of leaking about Plame. Or perhaps no crime at all, since she was outed many years before, and didn't have the right job description to make it a crime to reveal it.

Now that a major crime has been committed, it should be punished. If the administration fails to do it, they will as good as say that they will not enforce our secrecy laws. These leakers are not stupid. They see repeatedly that they can get away with it without any consequences, so they will continue to do it.

For the sake of our country's security if not to protect the administration from more similar attacks, Bush must act. It is his duty to do so, and there has never been a better time."

I listened very closely to Fox over the holiday to see who, if anyone, focused on the leak rather than the spying. I found little if any until this morning's re-run of Cavuto. And it wasn't even Cavuto, it was the British man who sits in for him and he pretty much blasted off with the same case as you have!

The tide needs to turn on this IMMEDIATELY. The focus must be taken off of the 'spying' and put on to finding out who committed the real crime, leaking of national security information to the press. THAT should be the story. We need to demand that something be done.


34 posted on 12/27/2005 3:33:05 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: chiller
I agree. If everyone started to just watch Fox News then we could really run the rest out of town. The liberals are always complaining about Fox News saying that they are not balanced, but they are. My favorite show is Hannity and Combs. I find it funny that they both argue about each others point of view. A few others are closer to the left so really this is a network for everyone. You listen to it all and take in what you feel is right and get rid of the BS from your brain. Easy solution. Death to the old news networks.
35 posted on 12/27/2005 4:14:38 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ncountylee

Until someone is brought up on charges of treason, the leaks will never cease.


36 posted on 12/27/2005 4:51:44 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek
Until someone is brought up on the charge of treason, the leaks will never cease.

And let's not forget that every leak is has a "hot off the press" book attached to it.

37 posted on 12/27/2005 11:09:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: thoughtomator
We will continue to bear this endless stream of left-wing treason until a US city gets nuked.

You left out the part about having to endure a spinless Republican leadership as well...

38 posted on 12/27/2005 11:13:08 AM PST by antaresequity ((PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED))
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To: Sacajaweau

And let's not forget that every leak is has a "hot off the press" book attached to it.

Better yet, they'll be easier to find and question.


39 posted on 12/27/2005 12:53:17 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: All

A friend of mine just used this particular article to rebutt a libs accusations of Bush's 'illegal' wiretaping. Has any of it since been legitimately debunked? She was provided with evidence (links to thinkprogress site) debunking the claim that Clinton and Carter had done the same thing. That, "Bush cannot claim "inherent authority" over warrantless electronic surveillance because there is already statutory law prohibiting it in the FISA law. The Bush administration's claim is utterly bogus on these circumstances."

Is it also true that those in congress who knew about the wiretaps were NOT able to do anything because they were sworn to secrecy?

anyone?


40 posted on 12/28/2005 1:10:09 PM PST by Kimberly GG
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