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Rush Limbaugh: Media Mantra on DOW 11,000: "Psychological"
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 1/10/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/10/2006 6:03:55 PM PST by wagglebee

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RUSH: Yesterday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed the barrier 11,000. The media has a way of describing this. We have put together a montage: Fox News Channel, ABC News, CBS News, CBS This Morning, CBS, NBC. Note here, there's a single word that all of these anchors and info babes and reporters used to describe the Dow breaking 11,000.

CHRIS WALLACE: We certainly understand it to be an important psychological mark.

REBECCA GOMEZ: It's a psychological milestone.

MELLODY HOBSON: There's nothing magical about 11,000. It's more psychological.

BOB SCHIEFFER: Wall Street reached a psychological milestone today.

HANNAH STORM: Big psychological barrier.

LIZ SONDERS: It's certainly more a psychological milestone.

KATIE COURIC: The Dow is opening today above a very important psychological milestone, the 11,000 mark. Is it time now for you to put more money in stocks?

RUSH: It's a psychological mark? It's a psychological milestone? When we get, what, 1,000 and then 2,000 soldiers deaths in Iraq, those are real, those are grim. Those aren't milestones, those are real, and there's nothing psychological about them, but here's the Dow at 11,000 for the first time since 9/11, and it's psychological. All this is an attempt to downplay the success of the economy. It's laughable. It's the same word. Somebody sends the fax out from somewhere to the media, and they all repeat it. You didn't have to watch one network to hear that report. You could have watched any one of them. It didn't matter which one you chose. They were all reporting it the same way. "A psychological barrier has been broken. The psychological barrier has been reached. It's nothing but a psychological barrier. Should we put more money in stocks?" Katie, why don't you tell people what you do with your multiple millions. You sit there and act like you're getting to work here in a Toyota Prius. Why don't you tell people what you do with your millions. "Well, I'm a journalist. What I do is irrelevant." I know.

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RUSH: Virgil in Griffin, Georgia. Hello, and welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you on the program.

CALLER: Dittos, Rush. Just in response to the montage you played a little a while ago with the Dow topping 11,000, just a question. Back when it topped 10 thousand during the Clinton years, was it also a psychological level, or was that different?

RUSH: Of course not. No, no, no, there are no psychological anything in the Clinton administration when it comes to economics. That was all real. It was substantive and it was brought about by high taxes and big government involvement in regulation and business and so forth. This 11,000, that's just a psychological barrier. You, by nature of your question, you understand the answer. Now, here are the details on this. "The Dow Jones industrial average closed above 11,000 today for the first time since before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, lifted by a five-day rally that has sent stocks soaring so far in 2006. 'It sends a signal that the U.S. economy has weathered some pretty harsh storms over the past few years and in recent months,' Art Hogan, chief investment strategist at Jefferies & Co., said of the Dow's achievement. Hogan said heightened clarity about the Fed's rate tightening--" Now what that means is, last week there was a -- or maybe a week ago there was a leak, somebody had read the notes or the minutes of a fed meeting, and they weren't going to tighten any more, they were going to leave interest rates alone for a while.

That report, that caused an initial bump. The race to 11,000 was on. The other factor is new investment money from 401(k) and pension funds have contributed to the market's gains in the new year. Art Hogan said we probably can hold onto this 11,000, meaning the 2006 rally, if companies can continue to weather this energy surge, operate in the higher interest rate environment and create jobs, the market should be able to continue this rise. They also claim that stabilizing energy prices and a number of other things contributed to the confidence that is allowing the Dow Jones Industrial Average to grow.

The next thing to happen after the notation that this is a psychological milestone, what you'll hear next, maybe starting today since these Alito hearings are bombing for the Democrats so badly, what you'll hear, the media will get economic experts to point out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has no correlation to the economy in general. There's no relationship how the Dow is doing or the stock market is doing, to how the overall economy is doing. That may have been true years ago. Today it's not. What's the numbers? Something sticks in my head, 56%, maybe more, of the American people are invested in the stock market one way or the other, either their pension plans or their 401(k)s or their outright purchases of stock. You know, it'll be what they'll try to do, but they will bomb out doing this as well. It will look like they're succeeding at first, because you'll think everybody is seeing it and only you are smart enough not to be affected by it, but have faith in your fellow citizens. They see through all this stuff now.

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RUSH: Here's Tom in Wilmington, North Carolina. Glad you called, sir, welcome to the program.

CALLER: Indeed a pleasure, Rush.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: Rush, as far as the economy, it's all smoke and mirrors. You gave the answer. It was money from 401(k)s, not new money. They're just taking it and reallocating it and pumping up the market. I'll make a bold prediction. By May, it will be back down to 10,000.

RUSH: When will we have the recession?

CALLER: By May, your Dow will be back down to 10,000.

RUSH: Well, I know. No, but if we're going to lose -- wait, now, serious, if we're going to lose a thousand points in the Dow, if that's what you think, when will we have a recession? Because George Soros is predicting a recession. Last week some other economist somewhere, the media found one, to predict a recession this year. When do you think it will happen?

CALLER: When the Asian world turns in all our debt and crushes our economy, you'll have a genuine recession. Rush, we're $8 trillion in debt. If that was a corporation based on GDP, it would be considered junk bonds.

RUSH: What? I didn't hear all of what you said. If what was a corporation GDP?

CALLER: If the United States was a corporation, based on our GDP, and having $8 trillion in debt, it would be considered junk status.

RUSH: Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. You're talking about the national debt, not the annual deficit?

CALLER: No, that's correct, the national debt. If all the Asian countries that own our debt and keep lending us money wanted to crush our economy, all they'd have to do is sell all that debt off and it would crush our economy. Our interest rate would go up to 20% just like in the Carter days. Rush, don't get me wrong, I'm with you 98% of the time, you are the man, you are a golden.

RUSH: Do you think they will do that? Do you think the Chinese will call in the loans?

CALLER: I don't know.

RUSH: No, they won't.

CALLER: They're unpredictable.

RUSH: I don't know how old you are, Tom, and I love you, and I respect you, and I heard you say that I'm 98% right, and you agree with me but on this one you gotta part ways. I just want to share a little life experience with you. And I'm not even talking economics here. But since I can remember -- I'm 54, and since I can remember, so I'm going back 'til when I was 15, that's what I really -- well, yeah, this kind of stuff. I remember the Kennedy-Nixon campaign of 1960 when I was nine, but 15, 16, that's when I really, really started paying attention. I can tell you that every year I have heard from somebody that the national debt is going to crush us. It's going to be the end of us. Back when the Japanese owned the most of it they were going to wipe us out. They started buying up various real estate parcels in the country, we're all going to be working for Japanese corporations. It was over. Then we learned the Brits owned a lot, the Brits foreclosed, we were in deep trouble. Now it's the Chinese and the Asians.

I've heard this my whole life. I've heard how the deficit is a monster that's going to destroy us. It hasn't. It hasn't in 40 years. And we've been running comparable debt. It wasn't this bad early on. And I know the economic theory is that at some point, like if this were a family, or if, as you say, a corporation, it would all come tumbling down. But the difference is that the rest of the world can't let this economy go, the rest of the world cannot pull out of this economy. They wouldn't have the economies they have were it not for ours. So, yeah, while it might sound dangerous that these people wanted to really end our -- and it's said that the Chinese do, the Chinese and the Iranians would love to team up and wipe us off the earth, and they may have some madmen somewhere in their countries that do, but that's really not the case. They'd like to take us down a few pegs but they don't want to destroy us. I've been hearing about this threat all of my life, and I've been hearing about a lot of conspiracy theories all my life, and they just don't ever happen. I appreciate the call.

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(Los Angeles Times: Dow Jones Industrial Average Climbs Above 11,000)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 000; bushboom; dittoheads; djia; dow10; dow10000; economy; rushlimbaugh; stockmarket
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To: wagglebee

I wish I could push up my retirement up a bit. Oh Well. I guess I can wait just 14 more months; target is end of March '07.

Old and getting older, but a little wiser
gpapa


21 posted on 01/10/2006 7:27:16 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: eeriegeno

Just in case Rush is wrong, and since I am near retirement, about 80% of my portfolio is in income producing stocks, mutual funds and closed-end funds, yielding an average of 9.5% in dividends and interest before taxes.


22 posted on 01/10/2006 7:36:49 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; wagglebee
Mostly it shows that the markets are back to where they were when Bush was first elected.

Arguably correct but extremely misleading statement.

Jan 09 2006 Rises 52.59 to close at 11,011.90, first close above 11,000 since June 7, 2001

Sep 7, 2001

Falls 234.99 to close at 9,605.85 falling 1,767.07 (15.5%) since May 21, 2001

http://www.mdleasing.com/djia.htm

23 posted on 01/10/2006 8:05:15 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Resistance if futile. We are the Freepers. You will be assimilated)
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To: eeriegeno

No Tech bubble to collapse this time as there was in 1999.


24 posted on 01/10/2006 8:06:13 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Resistance if futile. We are the Freepers. You will be assimilated)
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To: gpapa

You must listen to Bob Brinker. I retired 12 years ago on my local real estate holdings...


25 posted on 01/10/2006 8:11:52 PM PST by tubebender (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else...)
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To: wagglebee
There is no doubt in my mind that it's scripted.

Just amazed me Rush took Tom as the next caller. Tom is an economic moron. To SELL their position in American Security they Asians would have to have someone TO SELL TOO.

Even if Tom's fantasy were possible and the Asisans wanted to be "Gutting our market" we are their LARGEST customer. Our economy sneezes theirs catch cold. It leaves THEM with NO where to sell to. The slack in their production would not magically be suddenly picked up by Arabs or Africans or Europeans. We are the DEMAND side of the curve. They need us. Hey Tom, they need us to eat. Understand? We are the market EVERYONE wants to sell to. Tom was so arrogant and rabidly ignorant he had to be either a Pat Buchanan Economic Isolationist or a Democrat. No one else could possible be that Economically stupid. I wonder if "Tom" was Freeper Willie Green?

26 posted on 01/10/2006 8:14:22 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Resistance if futile. We are the Freepers. You will be assimilated)
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To: MNJohnnie; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Victoria Delsoul; Grampa Dave; bitt; ...



11,000

27 posted on 01/10/2006 8:26:29 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: devolve

LOL, that's worth donning a 'top hat' for!!


28 posted on 01/10/2006 8:33:14 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: devolve

The economy is obviously doomed. Doomed I tell you!

:)


29 posted on 01/10/2006 8:51:14 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: All

In the late 90's so many companies were spending billions in fixing the Y2K bug. I am in the IT field and I certainly remeber how the money flowed in thosed days. When Y2K turned out to be a huge non event, most companies scaled their IT budgets back to shells of what they were. When Billary tried to take credit for disrupting the normal business cycle, and to this day no one has pointed out that the year 2000 rolling around boosted the economy, it had nothing to do with Billary, in fact, it probably boosted it in spite of him. I get so tired of people attributing the economy of the late 90s to Billary. Here's a thought, Enrons of the world just started lying about their books during the Bush administration. I have more confidence in this economy due to the fact, after the scandals, I trust the numbers more now that are being reported. The dot coms that are selling well today are doing so because they actually perform a service. Anyway... buy real estate... they aren't making any more of it.


30 posted on 01/10/2006 9:42:18 PM PST by Carolina_Thor (It's always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: eeriegeno
I would like to believe that Rush is right...

Well, yeah, but Rush relies on listeners not going to Google and searching on "dow"+"10000"+"psychological" and finding 70,300 hits. And he counts on few people at all having Lexis-Nexis access to show how many hits there were in newspapers from that 10,000 psychological barrier. The real story isn't that it's different from before, but just that people view 11,000 as so different from 10,999.

And yes, I'm far worse off financially than I was in 2000, but that's just because I'm on the wrong side of the widening gap. Unfortunately, most people aren't as against socialism as I, and I fear that the widening gap will tempt many to go down that path even faster. :-(

31 posted on 01/11/2006 1:09:23 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: devolve

I love your Snoopy!
And, the music is absolutely perfect!

Tipping my hat backatcha! ;o)


32 posted on 01/12/2006 1:19:28 PM PST by dixiechick2000 ( Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.)
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To: wagglebee
"So, yeah, while it might sound dangerous that these people wanted to really end our -- and it's said that the Chinese do, the Chinese and the Iranians would love to team up and wipe us off the earth, and they may have some madmen somewhere in their countries that do, but that's really not the case. They'd like to take us down a few pegs but they don't want to destroy us."

Rush/Snerdly/any EIB research rep perusing the thread -- the current regime in Iran most certainly wants to "wipe us off the earth".

And you only need "some madmen" with a rogue nuclear capability to at least light the match. Not everyone in the Zeitgeist is working the same MAD calculus.

33 posted on 01/12/2006 2:25:36 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: eeriegeno

I heard Rush's show yesterday, 11 Jan, and noted that he was getting a stutter in his delivery toward the end of the show. He is usually so smooth that this stood out. Did anybody else notice this? He sounded okay today.


34 posted on 01/12/2006 2:28:39 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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35 posted on 01/12/2006 3:50:34 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: devolve
;o)
36 posted on 01/12/2006 3:54:10 PM PST by dixiechick2000 ( Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.)
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To: devolve

LOL!!


37 posted on 01/12/2006 6:59:14 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: devolve

WOW, they are having a party and didn't invite us!! VERY cute.


38 posted on 01/12/2006 8:13:13 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: wagglebee

Gosh, people are making money and pouring it back into the economy. Bummer, dude.


Communist Goals 1963 Congressional Record

39 posted on 01/12/2006 8:16:33 PM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: devolve

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 01/12/2006 10:18:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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