Posted on 01/23/2006 9:15:59 AM PST by Alouette
Moshe Yaalon says during Herzliya Conference Israel failed to create effective, reliable deterrence against rocket attacks; ‘Arabs’ refusal to recognize Israel is source of all violence directed against it from dawn of Zionism to this day,’ he adds
Former IDF chief of Staff Moshe Yaalon said Monday that Gaza has turned into “Hamastan, Hizbullahstan and al-Qaedastan” following Israel’s withdrawal from the area last summer.
Speaking at the Herzliya Conference on the Balance of Israel’s National Security, Yaalon said Israel easily gave up on principles such as border supervision and demilitarization.
The former IDF head said Israel failed to create effective and reliable deterrence against rocket attacks, saying, "Israel's unilateral withdrawals were perceived as escape from the rocket threat. Israel failed to create reliable deterrence for the future."
“The Arabs’ refusal to recognize Israel is the source of all the violence directed against it from the dawn of Zionism to this day,” he added.
'Warning signs'
“As long as this does not change, Israel will be prone to violence. The 1967 borders do not provide an answer to the threat of rocket and suicide bombing attacks, nor do they provide an answer to the threat of conventional attacks.
“In order to withstand terror we must remain firm in the belief in the justice of our ways; post and anti-Zionist trends have infiltrated public debate and the decision-making process,” he said.
Yaalon went on to slam the Palestinian Authority, saying it has breached every agreement with Israel.
“The Palestinians do not recognize our right to live within the 1967 borders. Their decision to wage war in September 2000 was aimed at dodging the need to recognize Israel as a sovereign state,” he said.
“All of these are warning signs ahead of determining the country’s permanent borders – either by way of agreement or unilaterally. As long as there is no acceptance of our right to exist, the Israeli leadership should assume any determined border will be challenged by violent acts, unless there is deterrence. The more vulnerable we appear, the bigger the temptation is to attack us.”
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Extinctostan would be better..
Soon to be Whamostan.
Or, as Michael Savage calls most of the middle-east countries, Crapastan.
It was important for Israel to draw a line and get its people on the safe side of that line. It was also important to get out of the day-to-day management of arabs.
Only Israel could decide where to draw that line, but it was important that she draw it, and she's done that.
Now it is important that the arabs know there is a price to pay each and every time an attack is launched across that line. Simply killing the attackers isn't enough. You have to exact a price in territory. Each rocket, each suicide attacker who manages to get across the line must be answered by moving the line a few hundred yards. Any houses or buildings affected must be bull-dozed.
Any arab residents affected by moving the line must be compensated and expelled. Israel must never again make the mistake of trying to govern arabs. Keep arabs on the arab side of the line.
It has to be made clear to any and all that attacks equal a loss of land, every time.
I kinda like the sound of Halliburtastan.
Look here. That list of us delusioned is growing. We're just Right Wing crazies, one and all.
Spot on mate!
Israel needs another King David, toot-sweet-pronto! NOW! Dear Lord, may Israel always prevail over her enemies!
Now it is important that the arabs know there is a price to pay each and every time an attack is launched across that line. Simply killing the attackers isn't enough. You have to exact a price in territory.
Close, but not quite. Israel was playing *really* high-level poker, and the so-called Palestinians lost bad.
The Palis scream that they must have Gaza. Okay, says Israel, you can have Gaza. It's yours to govern as you see fit. Now, the world sees that Israel took a unilateral step to meet a major Pali demand, and that the Palis are incapable of self-governance.
Every rocket attack from inside Gaza is shown to the rest of the world as "see, we gave them what they asked for, and still they attack." Every attack from inside Gaza erodes worldwide support for the Palis, but the Palis are too stupid to realize it.
No Palestinian can claim Israeli oppression any more. They can't call it a vengeance attack because the IDF supposedly killed some poor Palestinian boy. The Israelis have forced the Palestinians into showing their *true* demand, the abolition of the Israeli state. Even the UN Charter gives states the right of self-defense. The Israelis are setting it up to destroy the Palestinians once and for all, and the Palis are too blinded by their own hatred to feel the noose tightening around their own necks.
May all Christians join in your prayer. I know this one does.
The problem with your little fiction is that Israel withdrew unilaterly and there is no safe side as the bombing in Tel Aviv last week proved.
Also Israel need not keep day to day management of any Arabs but only keep the area secured.
Notwithstanding, by your definition, Israel continues to maintain management of these same arabs because the World insists Israel provide many of them with employment.
Finally even if your first part was legitimate as the carrot, then the second part, the stick, should also be valid.
But your second part is pure fantasy.
In sum Israel surrenders for no gain and plenty of potential loss.
Thank you!
The border has to be sealed.
And, the bombing in Tel Aviv has to be answered by moving the line.
Fail to seal the border, fail to exact a price in territory, and the attacks will only continue.
You can blame international and US pressure for failing to take a certain measure, and you may be justified. But failing to take that measure guarantees that the attacks continue.
Sharon built the fence in spite of pressure. You have to shut off land access to Israeli territory, whatever the pressure. The only access to Israel must be by air, none at all by land.
I have said in the past that there will never be an independent West Bank. I continue to say it. The West Bank is not viable on its own and will never be. But the answer to that is not for Israel to provide employment at the cost of continued suicide attacks.
Seal the border, and the West Bank will be forced to look to Amman for its employment and markets. Not a great option, but also not Israel's problem. Jordan doesn't want the territory, but again, not Israel's problem if they seal the border, and force the arabs to deal with one another.
Seal the border, and Gaza will be forced to look to Egypt for its employment and markets. Egypt says they don't want the territory, but they are already eyeing it. You have to make it not your problem, and you do it by sealing the border to all land access. That means you need a leader with the nerve to face down any pressure from the State Department.
If the problem was just the State Dept maybe such a leader would arise. The problem is also that Israeli Leftists are rotting it from the core.
Even Netanyahu, leading Likud, sounds leaning Left lately.
Israel will reawaken when heavy blood runs in the streets, hopefully not to late.
I hope you are wrong.
You could say the same thing about the US, and again I want you to be wrong. This war isn't over. I fear it hasn't really begun yet.
When it comes to the US the various bombings, including the Cole and the Embassies, didn't wake us up either. It look much blood and ash in NYC and Washington.
And now we seem to also need more reminders.
With all due respect, I see your point, but it flies in the face of reality. Israel is the one who "lost bad" when Gaza was evacuated. 8,000 families lost their homes. Most have still not found a place to live and exist as refugees in Israel, and are considered pariahs by their own government because they resisted the popular desire for getting out of Gaza. More than half of Israel's produce was produced in the greenhouses of Gaza. The source of food is now gone as well as the commerce it created.
As for world opinion, it remains largely unchanged. Europeans still hate Israel and ignore the daily attempts to attack Israelis. The land that was vacated is currently being used as a base to train an army and is being openly armed through the "barrier" that exists between Egypt and Gaza-stan. Missiles are already being lobbed from accross the new border.
The evacuation of Gaza was everything that its critics said it would be and none of what its proponants hoped for. It is an abysmal abject failure of staggering proportion.
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